Traction Control retard
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Traction Control retard
What is a good table of traction control retard values? I figure 0-800rpm only needs 4deg since the car shouldn't ever lose grip then.
The times that I've lost traction (and needed it), I'm pushing it harder than I should on a wet surface, and I'm guessing my rpm's are around 1200-2500. The stock values are
1200- 25deg
1600- 30deg
2000- 31deg
2400- 32deg
When it does kick in, it REALLY kills the throttle... should i reduce these about 5deg? How much of a difference would 5deg make? I've found a few .bin from Ed Wright on misc internet sites and the retard is only 4 degrees all the way across the rpm range (which to me seems like it's just turning traction control off almost completely).
I know how to recover from the back end losing it, but I'd rather not have to worry about that sometimes as I can't detect it before the computer can. I usually only leave ASR on when it's wet out anyway, but even then I think that it retards a little too much.
[Modified by Glock'94, 2:57 AM 12/17/2001]
[Modified by Glock'94, 10:46 AM 12/17/2001]
The times that I've lost traction (and needed it), I'm pushing it harder than I should on a wet surface, and I'm guessing my rpm's are around 1200-2500. The stock values are
1200- 25deg
1600- 30deg
2000- 31deg
2400- 32deg
When it does kick in, it REALLY kills the throttle... should i reduce these about 5deg? How much of a difference would 5deg make? I've found a few .bin from Ed Wright on misc internet sites and the retard is only 4 degrees all the way across the rpm range (which to me seems like it's just turning traction control off almost completely).
I know how to recover from the back end losing it, but I'd rather not have to worry about that sometimes as I can't detect it before the computer can. I usually only leave ASR on when it's wet out anyway, but even then I think that it retards a little too much.
[Modified by Glock'94, 2:57 AM 12/17/2001]
[Modified by Glock'94, 10:46 AM 12/17/2001]
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Re: Traction Control retard (Glock'94)
I would just try cutting those values in half maybe. I wouldn't disable it all together, that's what the button on the dash is for! You may wish you still had it when you get caught in an ice storm or something..... I drive my car everyday, and last winter a bad freeze came up at 3 in the afternoon, and by 5 it was pretty bad. My 4 mile trip home took over 30 minutes waiting in line idling down the road.
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Re: Traction Control retard (Marcho Polo)
I'm going to try about 33% off of those values and by the time I finally get all this together and working I can try it out on a rainy day and see exactly how much 5-10 deg of retard effects controling the car still. thanks marcho :)
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Re: Traction Control retard (Glock'94)
When it does kick in, it REALLY kills the throttle...
[Modified by Glock'94, 10:46 AM 12/17/2001]
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Re: Traction Control retard (Glock'94)
I know how to recover from the back end losing it, but I'd rather not have to worry about that sometimes as I can't detect it before the computer can. I usually only leave ASR on when it's wet out anyway, but even then I think that it retards a little too much.
I'd leave it the way it is if you want it to be effective, otherwise use the values in the modified chip you found.
