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The 4.10 gears for the Dana 44 are factory gears. They are as strong as you're going to get.
Actually the 4.11 are stronger. 4.11 from Tom's have 9 teeth on pinion and 37 on the ring. 4.10 have 10 on the pinion and 39 on the ring, so 4.11 are stronger and quieter.
The 4.10 gears for the Dana 44 are factory gears. They are as strong as you're going to get. Actually the 4.11 are stronger. 4.11 from Tom's have 9 teeth on pinion and 37 on the ring. 4.10 have 10 on the pinion and 39 on the ring, so 4.11 are stronger and quieter.
Sorry, should have said the 4.10 have 41 on the ring.
The site listed seems to be promoting the old welded sleeve onto the pinion to use Spicer gears in the Corvette rear. Personally, I don't think thats a good idea.
Its interesting that the site says you need "luck" to get your gears set up right if you don't buy the "conversion" kit. There must be a lot of lucky people on this site getting those 4.10's set up. At least their 4.11's don't require the changeover kit.
My 4:10s are totally quiet. I installed them and didn't need "luck" to properly install them. It's experience. And I agree about the welded piece not being as strong as one forged that way.
I got mine from Al Kindler as well. I had a professional install them and he said they were the perfect ring and pinion for the car. This guy has been building hot rods for 30 years and before install told me they might whine some. After install they did not and he was impressed.
Chris R. had sent me an email going into the details and differences between the sets, and apparently there are some differences. I am not a mechanic and did not fully understand about the pinion beening hobbed etc. but it turned out very well. I highly recommened getting them from Al.
Ditto on using Al. I got my set from him. More Performance did the pumpkin work, while I did the install/removal of the pumpkin. My set is much QUIETER than my factory 3.45's. On the highway I am still getting 27MPG. I never check it in the city, cause I know it sucks. Before the swap & now both.
Just went through this decision last week and went with the 4.11 gears from Tom's Diff. If you have any question in your mind why to use or not to use the Viper gears, the guys at Tom's (who could just as easily get you the Viper gears) will spend 30 minutes telling why to use the 4.11's The gear set was $189 and a complete bearing set (all bearings) was $86 (might as well replace them all while it's apart).
Thank you all for the info. I think I am going to go with the Viper gears from Al. To many people are running them in high HP cars with no problems. And its not a place I want to have to do work twice. :nonod:
I think either of them would work just fine as long as they are setup correctly. There are too many other weak links in the IRS setup for the ring or pinion gear to be the first to go.....
Just went through this decision last week and went with the 4.11 gears from Tom's Diff. If you have any question in your mind why to use or not to use the Viper gears, the guys at Tom's (who could just as easily get you the Viper gears) will spend 30 minutes telling why to use the 4.11's The gear set was $189 and a complete bearing set (all bearings) was $86 (might as well replace them all while it's apart).
When I spoke to Tom's a year ago they would NOT build me a rear with the viper gears. I mentioned I do some drag racing with slicks and I was not comfortable with using a sleeve set up. If you do a comparison between the two sets the the viper gears are physically bigger and bolt right in with no need to change the carrier. To each thier own, but Dana builds the the viper gears and I think they know best ;)