C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Help with PO171 Code (Lean)

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jun 9, 2008 | 11:49 AM
  #1  
Indynick's Avatar
Indynick
Thread Starter
Instructor
25 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
Liked
 
Joined: Nov 2000
Posts: 179
Likes: 2
From: Detroit Area
Default Help with PO171 Code (Lean)

I originally had this post in General, but it really belongs here. My 95 convertible with 90k miles was idling rough and I was getting a code 32, 63, and 64, using my Auto X-Ray scanner. I took it to the local dealer and he replaced a vacuum valve (no other description on the invoice) and repaired some broken wires to the right O2 sensor. In one week, the rough idle was back. The dealer now says the car has a PO171 code, and wants 2k to do a tune up (plugs, wires, cap, fuel filter, and water pump). I guess I am old school, and think you should find the problem, before you start throwing parts at it. I have rebuilt many Vette engines, carburetors, and brake systems, but have no experience with C4 electronics. I need some direction for my trouble shooting. Since I am still getting the same 32, 63, and 64, plus the PO171, I assume I should be looking at reasons for the lean condition. Too much air or too little fuel. When the engine is idling rough, you can smell the raw fuel, and when I accelerate fast, I blow black smoke out the back. So I think the computer sees a lean condition on the right side, and dumps more fuel to both sides. The extra fuel is not completely burned, and is fouling the plugs. So I think I should start by:
• Replace the fuel filter. Where is it located? The GM Service manual just says it is inline before the fuel injection unit, but does not show where.
• Look at is the right side O2 sensor. Check the wiring, and perhaps replace the sensor (why didn’t the dealer change it). Should both right sensors be replaced at the same time?
• Look at is the injectors. One or more could be dirty on the right side. Should they be removed for cleaning, or run some Techron thru the tank?
• The GM Drivability manual says the MAF sensor could cause a lean (PO171) condition, but not set a MAF error code. They suggest disconnecting the wiring, to see if the problem goes away. Has that worked for anyone?
• Can the plug wires be replaced without removing the water pump?
Does anyone have any different suggestions, or a change in the order of the testing? Thanks you your help.

Last edited by Indynick; Jun 9, 2008 at 10:54 PM.
Reply
Old Jun 9, 2008 | 08:00 PM
  #2  
SAY WHEN's Avatar
SAY WHEN
Instructor
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 156
Likes: 0
From: Powhatan Virginia
Default Maf

Yes--unpluging will work if it's bad --you should notice immediate idle improvement---since you say you smell raw fuel---check the fuel pressure regulator( connected to the fuel rail)---pull the vacuum line off the regulator if you see/smell fuel at the nipple of the regulator or vacuum the diaphragm could be ruptured---could cause your problem---it would also drive a O2 sensor out of range--just another thought.
Reply




All times are GMT -4. The time now is 06:22 PM.

story-0
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-1
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every Model vs Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-20 17:58:41


VIEW MORE
story-2
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE
story-3
5 MOST and 5 LEAST Popular Corvette Model Years in History!

Slideshow: 5 most and least popular Corvette model years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-08 13:25:01


VIEW MORE
story-4
2027 Corvette Buyer's Guide: Everything You Need to Know!

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette buyer's guide

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-17 16:41:08


VIEW MORE
story-5
10 Things C8 Corvette Owners Hate (But Won't Tell You)

Slideshow: 10 things C8 Corvette owners hate, but won't tell you.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-01 18:36:07


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Best Corvettes Coming to Barrett-Jackson Palm Beach 2026!

Slideshow: Should you add one of these incredible Corvettes to your garage?

By Brett Foote | 2026-04-01 18:14:05


VIEW MORE
story-7
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-8
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-9
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE