HELP NEEDED: Who Makes These Wheels? What Are They Worth?
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HELP NEEDED: Who Makes These Wheels? What Are They Worth?
I REALLY need some help here guys. A guy I know is offering to sell me a set of the wheels below. Problem is I can't tell the manufacturer. Hoping someone will take the time to help me out.
They are a ZR1 style wheel. He nor I can tell if they are good (i.e., expensive) or cheap knockoffs. Cast or forged? Manufacturer, etc.
I didn't weigh them but they are a light wheel.
They look just like the picture below which I grabbed from the Mid America Motorworks website.
Markings on the wheels:
FRONT
Scribed on the inside lip:
17x9.5 +54 2.788 5x4.75 05/14/02 2nd 1831
Cast/marked on the inside spokes:
Spoke 1: F.R. Made in USA
Spoke 2: 0502T917
Spoke 3: AO50702
Spoke 4: Max Wheel Load 1400 lbs
Spoke 5: 17x9.5J DOT-T
REAR
Scribed on the inside lip:
17x11 +50 2.788 5x4.75 01/03/03 3rd 2384
Cast/marked on the inside spokes:
Spoke 1: F.R.
Spoke 2: 17x11
Spoke 3: Made in USA
Spoke 4: 1202L741
Spoke 5: C121702
I have NO idea what they are worth.
I appreciate anyone taking the time to help me out.
Rick
They are a ZR1 style wheel. He nor I can tell if they are good (i.e., expensive) or cheap knockoffs. Cast or forged? Manufacturer, etc.
I didn't weigh them but they are a light wheel.
They look just like the picture below which I grabbed from the Mid America Motorworks website.
Markings on the wheels:
FRONT
Scribed on the inside lip:
17x9.5 +54 2.788 5x4.75 05/14/02 2nd 1831
Cast/marked on the inside spokes:
Spoke 1: F.R. Made in USA
Spoke 2: 0502T917
Spoke 3: AO50702
Spoke 4: Max Wheel Load 1400 lbs
Spoke 5: 17x9.5J DOT-T
REAR
Scribed on the inside lip:
17x11 +50 2.788 5x4.75 01/03/03 3rd 2384
Cast/marked on the inside spokes:
Spoke 1: F.R.
Spoke 2: 17x11
Spoke 3: Made in USA
Spoke 4: 1202L741
Spoke 5: C121702
I have NO idea what they are worth.
I appreciate anyone taking the time to help me out.
Rick
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Those are most likely true Grand sport Wheels and not knockoffs since Made in USA is stamped on it. The fact that they are a light weight wheel and have a load rating of 1400 lbs should prove, that the wheels are Forged just like the original factory Grand Sport and ZR1 wheels. Also, the recessed lug nut area on the 11 inch wheels should be a lot deeper than the front wheels which this area on the reproductions have the same depth.
Most Reproductions have CHINA stamped in them and are a lot heavier than the stock wheel.
Mid America's price of $619 a piece sounds right.
Most Reproductions have CHINA stamped in them and are a lot heavier than the stock wheel.
Mid America's price of $619 a piece sounds right.
Last edited by GKK; 07-14-2008 at 12:25 AM.
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They don't any more but they used to make repros that had the recessed lug nut area. I have a set of them and a set of the newer style ones, both are not A Molds. (I wish...)
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Those are most likely true Grand sport Wheels and not knockoffs since Made in USA is stamped on it. The fact that they are a light weight wheel and have a load rating of 1400 lbs should prove, that the wheels are Forged just like the original factory Grand Sport and ZR1 wheels. Also, the recessed lug nut area on the 11 inch wheels should be a lot deeper than the front wheels which this area on the reproductions have the same depth.
Most Reproductions have CHINA stamped in them and are a lot heavier than the stock wheel.
Mid America's price of $619 a piece sounds right.
Most Reproductions have CHINA stamped in them and are a lot heavier than the stock wheel.
Mid America's price of $619 a piece sounds right.
Last edited by WVZR-1; 07-14-2008 at 08:02 AM.
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Thanks, for the correction WVZR-1.
Rikhek, The wheels your friend has still sounds like a quality wheel and is definately not a cheap knock off.
Rikhek, The wheels your friend has still sounds like a quality wheel and is definately not a cheap knock off.
Last edited by GKK; 07-14-2008 at 12:36 PM.
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DING-DING-DING-DING We have a winner. WVZR-1 suggested Factory Reproduction in another thread. I just spoke to Factory Reproductions and he is correct, they are their wheels. The F.R. on the inside spokes is the tell.
Manufacture dates of 2002 and 2003 was when they were still making in the USA, now in China.
http://www.factoryreproductions.com/...rvette&wheel=1
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Rick
Manufacture dates of 2002 and 2003 was when they were still making in the USA, now in China.
http://www.factoryreproductions.com/...rvette&wheel=1
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Rick
Last edited by rikhek; 07-14-2008 at 03:44 PM.
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DING-DING-DING-DING We have a winner. WVZR-1 suggested Factory Reproduction in another thread. I just spoke to Factory Reproductions and he is correct, they are their wheels. The F.R. on the inside spokes is the tell.
Manufacture dates of 2002 and 2003 was when they were still making in the USA, now in China.
http://www.factoryreproductions.com/...rvette&wheel=1
Manufacture dates of 2002 and 2003 was when they were still making in the USA, now in China.
http://www.factoryreproductions.com/...rvette&wheel=1
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DING-DING-DING-DING We have a winner. WVZR-1 suggested Factory Reproduction in another thread. I just spoke to Factory Reproductions and he is correct, they are their wheels. The F.R. on the inside spokes is the tell.
Manufacture dates of 2002 and 2003 was when they were still making in the USA, now in China.
http://www.factoryreproductions.com/...rvette&wheel=1
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Rick
Manufacture dates of 2002 and 2003 was when they were still making in the USA, now in China.
http://www.factoryreproductions.com/...rvette&wheel=1
Thanks for taking the time to help me out.
Rick
Like Chris Kennedy mentioned, what you are looking at and what is available from them in todays market is likely two different products! The likely hood of you getting a "match" for a "single wheel" replacement will be "very slim" or "just not" a possibility! Good luck!
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Sir, did you actually send a copy of the photo to Factory Reproductions, as well? The reason I ask is because the photo shows a narrow silver "lip". A lot of the reproduction wheels have a wider silver lip, and I have known instances where what MidAmerica shows and describes, and actually sends, are different. /s/ Chris Kennedy
Factory Reproductions confirmed they were their wheel based on the spoke castings. The F.R. is how they mark their wheels. I spoke to the owner. He said no bout adout it. He even let me know the 2nd and 3rd scribed on the lip stood for the shift which made them. He was running 3 shifts back then.
Rick