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Old Jul 19, 2008 | 11:47 PM
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I am wanting to change my rear gears, do i have to take the rear end out of the car to do this, never messed the IRS before?
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 04:39 AM
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Yes. Check the link below to an article in the Tech Tips section, it shows the removal steps for swapping to a D44 but removal for gear replacement is identical.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...=218&TopicID=2
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 09:25 AM
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Originally Posted by toptechx6
Yes. Check the link below to an article in the Tech Tips section, it shows the removal steps for swapping to a D44 but removal for gear replacement is identical.

https://www.corvetteforum.com/techti...=218&TopicID=2
That was a long time ago I posted that tip. Glad people are still referrencing it.
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:42 AM
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thanks that really helps, but how do i know what rear end i have? there is no RPO code sticker inthe car
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 10:54 AM
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its probly possible to change the gears with the rear still in the car, but by the time you get the rear cover (batwing) off to access the gears and unhook the driveshaft to remove the pinion gear, there are only two bolts/nuts (c-beam connect) still holding the case in the car...easier to just drop it with the bat still on...imho, the c4 rear is the easiest to remove of any vehicle on the road (a few race cars have been quicker, some not)

you should "spread" the case to remove/install the carrier...i made my own "spreader" from angle iron+bolts and it works almost TOO good, be careful NOT to spread the case more than the SM recommends (o.010" IIRC) as the case spreads with little force and may not "spring back" to normal if spread excessively.

84's all came with d36, both auto and manuel, possible someone has upgraded it already... bolt holding bat to case @ 12:00 is a d36, d44 has no bolt @ 12:00 , other visual clues are numerous but more subtle.

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when you says d36 what ratio is that?
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 11:12 AM
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Originally Posted by twotonethunder
when you says d36 what ratio is that?
d36 is a 7.5" ring gear...d44 has 8.5" ring (much stronger, even vipers don't break their d44's on street tires)...both d36 and d44 came in numerous ratios, only way to be sure what you have is to mark driveshaft and BOTH halfshafts with chalk, etc and turn by hand while counting revolutions, do the math

need to mark "both" halfshafts becuse even tho all c4's have posi, on rare occasions the posi slips and goofs up the count

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Hey thats great input, so a D44 will just bolt right in? someone told me this car has 3.31's does that sound right for an 84?
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Originally Posted by armyracer11
Hey thats great input, so a D44 will just bolt right in? someone told me this car has 3.31's does that sound right for an 84?
That is the rare, 84 only gearset. It was sold over the counter but was discontinued quickly.
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he said all 84 vetts had 3.31 gears
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by armyracer11
he said all 84 vetts had 3.31 gears
he wrong...just pulled an 84 4+3 apart, it had 3.07
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Old Jul 20, 2008 | 03:17 PM
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Originally Posted by ski_dwn_it
That was a long time ago I posted that tip. Glad people are still referrencing it.
Good tips don't go out of date. Kind of a shame the Tech Tips section is no longer updated however.
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is there anykind of marker that i can see what it has in it?
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Originally Posted by armyracer11;
he said all 84 vetts had 3.31 gears
Proof positive that he doesn't know what he is talking about. The standard ratio for the 1984 was 3.07:1, whether auto or manual. Of the 51,547 1984 Corvettes built, 410 had the optional 3.31 gears. It is not impossible for you to have 3.31 gears but it makes no sense to take the word of someone without a clue.

The ratio and other pertinent data is likely stamped in to the bottom of the differential carrier housing.

When you count the turns of the drive shaft to determine the gear ratio, there is no "do the math" necessary.

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Originally Posted by CFI-EFI
Proof positive that he doesn't know what he is talking about. RACE ON!!!
Where have you been. It's been quiet around here!
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Originally Posted by armyracer11
he said all 84 vetts had 3.31 gears

3.31 is the performance ratio which is extremely rare. The standard gear ratio for a 84 was 3.07.
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Why are you wanting to change the gears?
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doing an LS1 swap, the car is for going fast and motor is not the only key to going fast its the whole combo of the car.
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Originally Posted by armyracer11
doing an LS1 swap, the car is for going fast and motor is not the only key to going fast its the whole combo of the car.
More information than I asked for (I'm familiar with the whole "combo" philosophy). Are you going for lower gearing to help out a lowtorque/peaky motor, or higher gears because the additional torque multiplication isn't needed?
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Old Jul 24, 2008 | 06:13 PM
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going for the tire spin lol
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