C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

engine stop leak?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:29 AM
  #1  
guido7834's Avatar
guido7834
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,449
Likes: 344
From: SC
Default engine stop leak?

My 87, 90,000 miles smokes briefly at start up. I know it needs valve seals. Slight leak, few drops of oil underneath. Hoping to what until next spring to do valve seals. Would adding a stop leak to oil help for a short term fix or is this a bad idea. Not a daily driver, only 4,000 or so miles per year. Thanks
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 09:33 AM
  #2  
tankman's Avatar
tankman
Burning Brakes
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jun 2001
Posts: 924
Likes: 0
From: Columbia South Carolina
Default

I'm only a shadetree,but I've always been told that stop leak is a BAD idea because it may stop up areas that can be harmful to your engine.
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 11:46 AM
  #3  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default

Having had the same symptoms on my 85, I changed the valve seals myself this spring. Just took my time; it's not too difficult. This is a good opportunity to inspect valve springs/dampeners, valve guide clearance, etc. Based on the condition and hardness of the o-rings and valve stem seals (some of the o-rings were even cracked), there is no way that a 'mechanic in a bottle' would have done anything to soften these seals as the products suggest they will. I'm not a believer in these kinds of 'fix-it' additives, and would be concerned more about what other problems might arise by using them. Just my .02...
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 12:12 PM
  #4  
guido7834's Avatar
guido7834
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,449
Likes: 344
From: SC
Default

Yes, I kinda doubted the claims made by these products, just thought I would get opinions to back it up.
Thanks
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 05:28 PM
  #5  
clok1966's Avatar
clok1966
Instructor
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 112
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by guido7834
Yes, I kinda doubted the claims made by these products, just thought I would get opinions to back it up.
Thanks
Most of the Stop leak products (for engine oil seals) wont plug anything, they have stuff in them that reactes with rubber. The idea is it will slightly swell the rubber seals to make them "seal" again.. I have used it in some junker cars to mixed results. I had a rear seal in a Mazda that leaked bad, and i didnt want to pull a couple hundred dollar car apart. I ran som stop leak through it, took 2X and suprisingly the car has pretty much stopped leaking. This car also puffed a little on start up and now doesnt do it. How long this will last, I have no idea? My 87 (hmm two 87 smokeing, mine is 93,000) also smokes a little at start and I have also been thinking about it. I must admit, I have had good luck in cars I care little about (done it 3X and it did iprove each time, but the Mazda story is the best, the others where not so pronounced). I dont think its going to seal up anything (the radiator stop leaks of yesteryear used to do that and cuase all sorts of problems, hence most stop leaks have a bad name). But I cant say one way or another, anything is possible, and you have to decide if its worth risking.. I dont think its going to harm my car, but even so, I'm still sitting on the fence and havent done it yet. Most miracle cures are to good to be true. but I honesly have had some luck with the stuff.

Last edited by clok1966; Jul 27, 2008 at 05:30 PM.
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 05:50 PM
  #6  
Fast Eddiz's Avatar
Fast Eddiz
Instructor
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 120
Likes: 0
From: Port Angeles WA
Default

This link might be of some help, www.vettenet.org/vlvseals.html
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 06:21 PM
  #7  
Radioshop's Avatar
Radioshop
Pro
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 576
Likes: 0
Default

Sounds to me like the symptoms are easily ignored until you're ready to do the big job. Quit looking out the rearview on startup and keep an eye on the dipstick. Don't forget it's an old Chevy and this is what they do.
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 07:06 PM
  #8  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default

Originally Posted by Fast Eddiz
This link might be of some help, www.vettenet.org/vlvseals.html
Not a bad write up but one important piece of information is missing. When re-installing the compressed valve spring and retainer, the new o-ring should not yet be installed on the valve stem. The retainer has to be positioned below the o-ring seal so if the seal is already there, you'll be forcing the retainer over the o-ring, most likely damaging it. Once the compressed valve spring and retainer are placed over the valve stem, then install the new o-ring and the keepers and slowly release the compressed valve spring which will press the retainer up underneath the o-ring - creating the seal.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-2

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-4

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
story-5

Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-6

10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

 Michael S. Palmer
story-8

2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

 Joe Kucinski
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 07:41 PM
  #9  
JackDidley's Avatar
JackDidley
Race Director
20 Year Member
Active Streak: 30 Days
Liked
Loved
 
Joined: Sep 2003
Posts: 16,836
Likes: 337
From: Database Error Indiana
Default

My 87 had the same puff on start up at 35000 miles. I lived with it for years. At around 85000 miles it was my excuse to do heads, cam and intake mods.
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 08:42 PM
  #10  
guido7834's Avatar
guido7834
Thread Starter
Melting Slicks
15 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,449
Likes: 344
From: SC
Default

Now, will this valve seal leak lead to plug fouling?
Reply
Old Jul 27, 2008 | 10:05 PM
  #11  
pletzvet's Avatar
pletzvet
Pro
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 602
Likes: 0
From: North Bay Ontario
Default

not likely
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To engine stop leak?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 09:18 PM.

story-0
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-1
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-2
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-3
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE
story-5
Top 10 C9 Corvette MUST-HAVES to Fix These C8 Generation Flaws!

Slideshow: the top 10 things Corvette owners want in the C9 Corvette

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-30 12:41:15


VIEW MORE
story-6
10 Revolutionary 'Corvette Firsts' Most People Don't Know

Slideshow: 10 Important Corvette 'firsts' that every fan should know.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-29 17:02:16


VIEW MORE
story-7
5 Reasons to Upgrade to an LS6-Powered Corvette; 5 Reasons to Stay LT2

Slideshow: Should you buy a 2020-2026 Corvette or wait for 2027?

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-22 10:08:58


VIEW MORE
story-8
2027 Corvette vs The World: Every C8 vs Its Closest Competitor

Slideshow: 2027 Corvette lineup vs the world.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-24 16:12:42


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 Most Common Corvette Problems of the Last 20 Years!

Slideshow: 10 major Corvette problems from the last 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-04-14 16:37:05


VIEW MORE