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Old Aug 23, 2008 | 10:44 PM
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Razor what did you run in the 1/4 mile?
It looks like your curve holds a bit more torque a little longer.

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Originally Posted by cplonner
Razor what did you run in the 1/4 mile?
It looks like your curve holds a bit more torque a little longer.
And that was my question why does the before rise but the after drops so fast. I know L98 develope torque down low better than LT1 s but I never realized how much they drop off at higher rpms. Is that a function of air intake?
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Originally Posted by Redeasysport
I know L98 develope torque down low better than LT1 s but I never realized how much they drop off at higher rpms. Is that a function of air intake?
Yes, the long runners cause the intake gas velocity to be higher at low rpm, leading to the torque it makes.

Their length also holds back the engine, as the engine cant breathe at high rpms because of it.
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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 08:41 AM
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Originally Posted by cplonner
Razor what did you run in the 1/4 mile?
It looks like your curve holds a bit more torque a little longer.
I run 13.0 13.1 all day on any kind of air or track conditions, with the best of 12.85

With the difference in Dyno's I would say you have the advantage in higher peek numbers. It does look like my car holds at peek for bit longer and HP curve ramps up a little quicker.

My, not so scientific HP and TQ comparison is to add the peek of the two numbers and divide by two. That puts both of us around 350 average. It's not a perfect calculation but it makes it easy to explain why a stock LS1 can not keep up with me in the 1/4.
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Originally Posted by Razor89
I run 13.0 13.1 all day on any kind of air or track conditions, with the best of 12.85

With the difference in Dyno's I would say you have the advantage in higher peek numbers. It does look like my car holds at peek for bit longer and HP curve ramps up a little quicker.

My, not so scientific HP and TQ comparison is to add the peek of the two numbers and divide by two. That puts both of us around 350 average. It's not a perfect calculation but it makes it easy to explain why a stock LS1 can not keep up with me in the 1/4.
Ill post my 1/4 mile times when I get to the track. It should be interesting to see the the same peak numbers but little bit different curves and what they do in the 1/4 mile. Im guessing ill have a bit slower time but the same mph. Also your rear gears should help your times more than mine.

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Old Aug 24, 2008 | 09:47 AM
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Originally Posted by cplonner
How about torque with the proper gearing. Higher torque, higher gear ratio to keep it even with a car with higher hp lower gear ratio?
Torque can be easily increased with gear ratios. Power cannot be multiplied like this. If you have less power, that's it. Nothing will make up for that except more power, or less weight.

To the OP, if you took two identical cars. Imagine one has the normal LT1 torque/power curve. But the other one, you took the torque at 2000 rpm, and dragged it up about 60 lb-ft, so the torque curves from say 1500-2500 were different, but the same everywhere else.

Yes that car would be a little bit faster, all else equal. In that RPM range, it would accelerate harder than the "standard" car. Though you'd only see that advantage once in first gear, as you never drop rpms back that low after a shift.

When you are talking real-world, power > torque.
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