C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Manually shift your automatic?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:48 AM
  #1  
198T7VETTE's Avatar
198T7VETTE
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
Default Manually shift your automatic?

Hey everyone.... I was having a problem with my car short shifting first and bogging into second. From a dead stop the car will bust the tires loose than short shift into second and bog down. This morning I put it in first manually and punched it from a stop. The car busted the tires loose and kept spinning until I shifted at about 4800. I shifted into second, the bog was gone, and the car chirped second and kept pulling like a train. Now here is my question......How many of you manually shift your automatic? Is there a way to get rid of the car short shifting itself automatically?
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:03 PM
  #2  
Master__Shake_'s Avatar
Master__Shake_
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 584
Likes: 1
From: Near Lockport NY Black 1986 Coupe
Default

For some reason when I put my car into first it will automatically shift into second without me shifting. Then it stays in second until I shift into drive. Do I have to shift while slowing down to get into first, or is my tranny on the way out?
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:31 PM
  #3  
rlane5's Avatar
rlane5
Pro
20 Year Member
 
Joined: May 2002
Posts: 635
Likes: 6
From: New Jersey
Default

8T7 changing the speed governor in the transmission will allow it to shift higher.
And in Shake case the shifter cable might need adjusting.
Randy
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 12:36 PM
  #4  
Kool88vette's Avatar
Kool88vette
Drifting
 
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 1,934
Likes: 3
From: Citrus Heights California
Default

My 700r shifts around 4700 rpms with a Transgo shift kit. I think that's too soon. I shift about 5200 rpms manually.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 01:50 PM
  #5  
M.J.L.'s Avatar
M.J.L.
Safety Car
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 3,966
Likes: 4
From: Made In America
St. Jude Donor '10-'11
Default

I upshift mine on occassion but I never downshift while the car is in motion. It can damage the transmission by stretching the bands inside of it. When I accelerate in first, it takes off like a bat out of hell, hit 2and and it jerks forward hard, then into drive the jerking is softer. Has always been that way. The later models have been upgraded with a softener to keep it from shif jerking so hard when you put the car in gear from Reverse, Neutral, or Park. Like the others said below me, shift kits help and the firmer the shifts during driving is good. It's the jerking that it does from going into drive that is not healthy but still normal from the factory.

I would like to add, some shift kits allow you to shift manually all the time with a automatic. Just a thought.

Last edited by M.J.L.; Oct 15, 2008 at 01:44 PM. Reason: Clarifying response
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 04:32 PM
  #6  
cwyates4's Avatar
cwyates4
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,065
Likes: 1
From: Jasper Texas
Default

hmm....I shift my automatic manually when I'm going for performance. It shifts at 5200 rpms automatically, I shift at 6500 manually, big difference! I downshift the mess out of it too, I just have too much fun. :o
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 05:15 PM
  #7  
Corvette Chris's Avatar
Corvette Chris
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,262
Likes: 0
From: E. Amherst NY
Default

Originally Posted by Harley Davidson
The later models have been upgraded with a softener to keep it from shifting so hard and helps the transmission last longer.
Say what? I've always been told faster shifting transmissions last longer. Less wear on the clutch packs. Hence, why transmissions with shift kits are said to last longer.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 06:29 PM
  #8  
RacerX70CC's Avatar
RacerX70CC
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 2,799
Likes: 2
From: Cape Coral FL
Default

Originally Posted by Harley Davidson
The later models have been upgraded with a softener to keep it from shifting so hard and helps the transmission last longer.
(best Geico caveman voice) Uhhh, what?

When a trans has had the shifts "softened", what that means is the clutch plates are slipping to facilitate a softer shift. Transmission shift kits actually add to transmission life by taking this "slop" out of the shift process.
Also, upping the TCS line pressure in a later 4L60E will accomplish the same result.

FYI, I shift my '96 manually most of the time (with the ASR off, too!), and only let it shift itself if I feel like it.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

 Joe Kucinski
story-1

Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-2

5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

7 Bolt-On Upgrades From Extreme Online Store to Level Up Your C6 Corvette

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

How Likely Are These Five 2027 Corvette Rumors to Be True?

 Brett Foote
story-5

9 Best Corvettes You Can Buy for Half Price (& 1 You Should NEVER Buy!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

8 Very Best Corvettes of Amelia Island 2026

 Joe Kucinski
story-7

Top 10 WORST Corvette Engineering Failures of All Time!

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

10 Records the C8 Corvette Generation Has SMASHED (& 1 Glaring Failure)

 Joe Kucinski
story-9

7 Wildest Corvette Concepts Ever Made

 Brett Foote
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 08:03 PM
  #9  
Iroc57's Avatar
Iroc57
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 1
From: Warwick RI
Default

Originally Posted by Master__Shake_
For some reason when I put my car into first it will automatically shift into second without me shifting. Then it stays in second until I shift into drive. Do I have to shift while slowing down to get into first, or is my tranny on the way out?
no
shifter is probably out of adjustment
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 08:17 PM
  #10  
rodj's Avatar
rodj
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,838
Likes: 31
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by cwyates4
I shift my automatic manually when I'm going for performance. big difference! I downshift the mess out of it too, I just have too much fun. :o

I have a quality shift kit in my perf built trans and shift mine like a stick both up and down.
Engine braking is great on the downhill twisty roads
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 09:00 PM
  #11  
Corvette Chris's Avatar
Corvette Chris
Le Mans Master
15 Year Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 5,262
Likes: 0
From: E. Amherst NY
Default

Originally Posted by RacerX70CC
(best Geico caveman voice) Uhhh, what?

When a trans has had the shifts "softened", what that means is the clutch plates are slipping to facilitate a softer shift. Transmission shift kits actually add to transmission life by taking this "slop" out of the shift process.
Also, upping the TCS line pressure in a later 4L60E will accomplish the same result.

FYI, I shift my '96 manually most of the time (with the ASR off, too!), and only let it shift itself if I feel like it.
Looks like I was right on. I'd never heard of softer shifts being better for the trans.
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 10:00 PM
  #12  
198T7VETTE's Avatar
198T7VETTE
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
Default

what do you think is the right rpm to shift a stock car at?
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:53 PM
  #13  
rodj's Avatar
rodj
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,838
Likes: 31
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by 198T7VETTE
what do you think is the right rpm to shift a stock car at?
Stock TPI ; no point going over 4500 , you will be slowing down
Reply
Old Oct 14, 2008 | 11:58 PM
  #14  
Spinner_89's Avatar
Spinner_89
Pro
 
Joined: Jun 2008
Posts: 531
Likes: 0
From: Calgary Alberta
Default

Originally Posted by Kool88vette
My 700r shifts around 4700 rpms with a Transgo shift kit. I think that's too soon. I shift about 5200 rpms manually.
If you're engine is stock - then there is no point holding it to 5200.
the computer is designed to shift at that rpm under hard acceleration in order to get the most out of that gear, and the next.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 12:26 AM
  #15  
cwyates4's Avatar
cwyates4
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,065
Likes: 1
From: Jasper Texas
Default

Originally Posted by Spinner_89
If you're engine is stock - then there is no point holding it to 5200.
the computer is designed to shift at that rpm under hard acceleration in order to get the most out of that gear, and the next.


But he does have a superram, so he is getting some use out of those revs.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 01:16 AM
  #16  
65Z01's Avatar
65Z01
Team Owner
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Dec 2000
Posts: 90,675
Likes: 304
From: SE NY
Cruise-In II Veteran
Default

But he does have a superram, so he is getting some use out of those revs.
Gees, with a SR shift at 6k RPM, if the valve train will handle it and the ignition is beefed up.

I get the best 1/4 mile results shifting my L98 close to 6k RPM with a siamese stock intake base and totally stock runners.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 02:23 AM
  #17  
Master__Shake_'s Avatar
Master__Shake_
Pro
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 584
Likes: 1
From: Near Lockport NY Black 1986 Coupe
Default

Originally Posted by Iroc57
no
shifter is probably out of adjustment
How would I go about getting it adjusted? I'd like to be able to keep it in first for certain reasons.. But in all seriousness, it is a pain.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Manually shift your automatic?

Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:15 AM
  #18  
Iroc57's Avatar
Iroc57
Melting Slicks
 
Joined: May 2007
Posts: 2,171
Likes: 1
From: Warwick RI
Default

Originally Posted by Master__Shake_
How would I go about getting it adjusted? I'd like to be able to keep it in first for certain reasons.. But in all seriousness, it is a pain.

First open up your console. You may have something down in the shifter that is keeping it from going down to first. I will wait for someone to chime in that has adjusted the stock shifter before, aftermarket shifters have adjustment at the tranny but I can't remember if my stock one did
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 07:51 AM
  #19  
rodj's Avatar
rodj
Le Mans Master
25 Year Member
 
Joined: Aug 2000
Posts: 8,838
Likes: 31
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by Iroc57
aftermarket shifters have adjustment at the tranny but I can't remember if my stock one did
Same deal; has thread on outer cable with locknuts.
After you have adjusted it to engage 1st , check to make sure it will still engage park correctly; as in the pawl will lock in.
Reply
Old Oct 15, 2008 | 10:35 AM
  #20  
198T7VETTE's Avatar
198T7VETTE
Thread Starter
Racer
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 305
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by rodj
Stock TPI ; no point going over 4500 , you will be slowing down
Good info....That is where I am shifting at now. Give or take a hundred rpm. Last time I shifted in the mid 5000's I popped a intake gasket (if that was the real cause, who knows).
Reply



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:05 AM.

story-0
Every Corvette Grand Sport Explained! (C2, C4, C6, C7, & C8)

Slideshow: Every Corvette Grand Sport explained

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-26 07:13:44


VIEW MORE
story-1
Grand Sport & Grand Sport X Launch Alongside All-New 535hp LS6 V8!

Slideshow: Breaking down the 2027 Grand Sport, Grand Sport X, Stingray, and LS6 V8.

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-03-26 13:48:45


VIEW MORE
story-2
5 Reasons Bad Drivers Crash & 5 Ways to Avoid a Costly Mistake!

Slideshow: 5 reasons bad drivers crash sports cars & 5 ways to avoid a costly shame!

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-25 16:32:55


VIEW MORE
story-3
7 Bolt-On Upgrades From Extreme Online Store to Level Up Your C6 Corvette

Slideshow: Check out these easy-to-install upgrades from Extreme Online Store that reshape the look and feel of the C6 Corvette.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-03-23 17:00:27


VIEW MORE
story-4
How Likely Are These Five 2027 Corvette Rumors to Be True?

There may be some big changes on the horizon.

By Brett Foote | 2026-03-18 06:55:42


VIEW MORE
story-5
9 Best Corvettes You Can Buy for Half Price (& 1 You Should NEVER Buy!)

Slideshow: 9 best Corvettes you can buy for half price (and 1 you shouldn't!)

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-17 10:20:26


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Very Best Corvettes of Amelia Island 2026

Slideshow: 8 best Corvette of Amelia Island 2026

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-11 09:28:52


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 WORST Corvette Engineering Failures of All Time!

Slideshow: Top 10 worst Corvette engineering failures

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-10 17:38:03


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Records the C8 Corvette Generation Has SMASHED (& 1 Glaring Failure)

Slideshow: 10 records the C8 Corvette generation has SMASHED (& 1 glaring failure).

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-03-02 11:16:36


VIEW MORE
story-9
7 Wildest Corvette Concepts Ever Made

Out of the many Corvette concepts that exist, these are by far the wildest of the bunch.

By Brett Foote | 2026-03-02 11:03:54


VIEW MORE