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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 11:30 AM
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It is time to make the power upgrade, amps not hp. Hp later.
Question: On my '91 can I use any LT1 CS144 alternator, like off a f-body or does it need to be a C4 one only. I know i will need to make minnor mods but i would like to make the swap as easy as pos.

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Originally Posted by mkrail@flash.net
It is time to make the power upgrade, amps not hp. Hp later.
Question: On my '91 can I use any LT1 CS144 alternator, like off a f-body or does it need to be a C4 one only. I know i will need to make minnor mods but i would like to make the swap as easy as pos.

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I don't know if this will apply to your LT1 alternator but when I tried to use an f-body on my 91 (back when my son first got it) the pulley needed to be swapped. The F-body was a 5 groove serp and the vette was a 6 (or visa-versa).
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The front housing and the pulley are what distinguishes one CS-144 from another.

The front mounting holes on the Corvette LT-1 are 180 degrees apart, oriented north and south in the normal mounting position, and the pulley is a six groove.

It easy enough just to get a Corvette LT-1 alternator with the right pulley.

You can get a used Corvette Lt-1 alternator and rebuild it your self and run a 200 amp. There are 200 amp alternators on fleabay right now for 160 bucks

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Originally Posted by JimiHendrix
The front housing and the pulley are what distinguishes one CS-144 from another.

The front mounting holes on the Corvette LT-1 are 180 degrees apart, oriented north and south in the normal mounting position, and the pulley is a six groove.

It easy enough just to get a Corvette LT-1 alternator with the right pulley.

You can get a used Corvette Lt-1 alternator and rebuild it your self and run a 200 amp. There are 200 amp alternators on fleabay right now for 160 bucks

200 amp...That should handle the microwave, dishwasher, AND the dehumidifier
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Old Jan 1, 2009 | 02:28 PM
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200 amp...That should handle the microwave, dishwasher, AND the dehumidifier

THX - was just trying to save some $, the used f-boby alts are easier and cheeper to come by. I guess I just need to head to the Zone and get a rebuilt one, don't have a core so that will gig me a couple more $. I would reather put the cash towards some long tubes or something like that. I guess all the hp in the world is no good if you can't keep the bat. up.
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I installed a "96" 140 amp ZR-1 CS-144 remanufactured alternator from Rockauto.com in my "91" Vette and with a little trimming on the mounting tab, it fits fine.

The "96" F-body 140 amp CS-144 alternator costs a little more on Rockauto's site. Also, the earlier CS-144 alternators were only 130 amps.

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Originally Posted by GKK
I installed a "96" 140 amp ZR-1 CS-144 remanufactured alternator from Rockauto.com in my "91" Vette and with a little trimming on the mounting tab, it fits fine.

The "96" F-body 140 amp CS-144 alternator costs a little more on Rockauto's site. Also, the earlier CS-144 alternators were only 130 amps.
A quick look at autozone and o'reilly websites don't list a ZR-1 in '96, maybe all '96 C4 alts. are the same?
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Originally Posted by JimiHendrix
The front housing and the pulley are what distinguishes one CS-144 from another.

The front mounting holes on the Corvette LT-1 are 180 degrees apart, oriented north and south in the normal mounting position, and the pulley is a six groove.

It easy enough just to get a Corvette LT-1 alternator with the right pulley.

You can get a used Corvette Lt-1 alternator and rebuild it your self and run a 200 amp. There are 200 amp alternators on fleabay right now for 160 bucks
I could not find them.
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Originally Posted by mkrail@flash.net
A quick look at autozone and o'reilly websites don't list a ZR-1 in '96, maybe all '96 C4 alts. are the same?
Yes, it looks like all 96 CS-144 alternators are 140 amps.

Napa's site lists the 92-95 CS-144 engine code "P" and model ZR-1 alternator as a 124 amp and the 96 as a 140 amp. So, I would just buy a 96 CS-144 alternator. Also, you'll lose the core charge ($19 from Rockauto or $25 from Autozone) since you don't have a core to return.

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Originally Posted by GKK
Yes, it looks like all 96 CS-144 alternators are 140 amps.

Napa's site lists the 92-95 CS-144 engine code "P" and model ZR-1 alternator as a 124 amp and the 96 as a 140 amp. So, I would just buy a 96 CS-144 alternator. Also, you'll lose the core charge ($19 from Rockauto or $25 from Autozone) since you don't have a core to return.
Look's like that is the way I will go. I have never shopped at Rockauto before, how do they fair?
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Rockauto is a great company to deal with. Shipping is fast and the quality of the products are great. Prices are lower than most.
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Originally Posted by GKK
Rockauto is a great company to deal with. Shipping is fast and the quality of the products are great. Prices are lower than most.

Thx - I will give them a try.
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My bad. . . I meant that the kit upgrades are available on fleabay for 160.00

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/DELCO...Q5fAccessories

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200 amp...That should handle the microwave, dishwasher, AND the dehumidifier
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all CS-xxx alternators (110/130/144) are wired the same internally and use the same 4-wire elect connector, plus the "big" output post, even tho different models do not use all 4 possible input connections ( some only one wire)... all will make power perfectly if fed 12v+ thru a "194" bulb "idiot light" into terminal "L" (see the connector for terminal i.d. in very, very small print)...mounting lugs vary and can NOT be "clocked" as older units could.

if the drive pulley is not correct, lay the alternator on the shop floor, put a thin wooden block under the cooling fan, put the heel of your boot on top of the fan (helps isolate internals from mechanical shock) and a quick blast from an air drive impact wrench ( 15/16" socket IIRC ) will get all reqd bits off, reverse to install...drive pulley from your failed unit (use all old spacers,etc) will fit the new alt... put "wrong" drive on the failed unit if returning for "core" $... MUST clean the threads of the new alt drive with solvent (brake cleaner, etc) and reinstall the nut with "loctite"
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Hey Pete K,

here is one 200 amp alt for sale....160bucks brand new.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/NEW-A...Q5fAccessories

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