cam selection for SR
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I notice the SR cam is a single pattern (219), high-lift cam. You might need more split -- depending on your exhaust/heads. With sims, though, I'm also seeing how lots of exhaust duration can bleed of compression -- and hurt your numbers.
The hotcam has less lift and (much) more exhaust duration, it could help (vs the SR cam) if your heads don't flow that well and your exhaust is restricted. Do you have stock heads and manifolds?
Last edited by GREGGPENN; Jan 15, 2009 at 03:42 PM.
I notice the SR cam is a single pattern (219), high-lift cam. You might need more split -- depending on your exhaust/heads. With sims, though, I'm also seeing how lots of exhaust duration can bleed of compression -- and hurt your numbers.
The hotcam has less lift and (much) more exhaust duration, it could help (vs the SR cam) if your heads don't flow that well and your exhaust is restricted. Do you have stock heads and manifolds?
and smog considerations?
I notice the SR cam is a single pattern (219), high-lift cam. You might need more split -- depending on your exhaust/heads. With sims, though, I'm also seeing how lots of exhaust duration can bleed of compression -- and hurt your numbers.
The hotcam has less lift and (much) more exhaust duration, it could help (vs the SR cam) if your heads don't flow that well and your exhaust is restricted. Do you have stock heads and manifolds?





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It's going to be hard to beat the SR cam then -- but it's possible. Your new exhaust will eliminate the need for much (if any) split. You could pick between 1.5 and 1.6 rockers on the SR cam -- depending on the heads (flow) you get.
(Or, if the heads don't flow dog-nuts, you could pick smaller ramps and stick with the 1.6 rockers. TPiS recommends using rocker ratio and smaller lobe wherever possible to get desired lift.)
The hotcam might not lift enough and the split will hurt you (for your future setup).
It might be beneficial to ask (compcams or the forum) how the XFI lobes compare to the SR lobes.... Since the XFI lobes are newer, they MIGHT be easier on the valve trane than SR cam. I say this now that I notice the similarity in the SR vs XFI (duration/lift).
From compcams catalog... A single pattern XFI cam could be ordered with 218/218 .570"/570" 113+/-LSA. The SR cam is 219/219 .560"/.560" 112LSA. (With 195 heads, the XFI might actually get you a few ponies more.)
(Another option would be a 214/218XFI combo. It would get you more bottom end -- if you want it. Or Lloyd Elliot sells a bullet cam 218/222 with .544/.544 lift (w 1.6). It's a bit easier on valve trane -- with slightly smaller ramps.)
That's the options I know of anyway...





I just remembered, the cam you'd picked before was for a TPI. The SR will definitely be different!
Vader's suggestion sounds about right. Reducing lift or duration typically improves emissions.
Isn't there a lot of tuners in LA?
Edit: O.K., Slick.... How come you're looking for a MR in C4 Parts ForSale, but say you want a SR here?
Last edited by GREGGPENN; Jan 15, 2009 at 06:30 PM.
Gregg that really breaks it down a lot
Vader's suggestion sounds about right. Reducing lift or duration typically improves emissions.
Isn't there a lot of tuners in LA?
Edit: O.K., Slick.... How come you're looking for a MR in C4 Parts ForSale, but say you want a SR here?
the mr idea is scratched and the eo number with the sr is a nice icing on the corvette cake.
i call ligenfelter and the 74219 they recommended is rated at a 1.6 rocker ratio, the cam i have in it is bigger, albeit with a 114 lsA VS. THE 219'S 112LSA,
do you know if i should look at that number closely or it's advance whatever that means, heck i wish this was all done by now.
You should just put that thing together before swapping things out but a heavily ported SR wont hurt anything for sure .
Tell Jorge to start wrenching and stop thinking. thats already been done .
Last edited by cv67; Jan 16, 2009 at 03:45 AM.
You should just put that thing together before swapping things out but a heavily ported SR wont hurt anything for sure .
Tell Jorge to start wrenching and stop thinking. thats already been done .

another thing is were trying to up the compression to where we had plan, 10.2 for an aluminum head is too conservative, so that has to be measured and dealt with.
explain 114 lsa vs. 112 lsa if you care...
what advantage to porting the sr if any? what parts would be grounded. base plate, runners?





another thing is were trying to up the compression to where we had plan, 10.2 for an aluminum head is too conservative, so that has to be measured and dealt with.
explain 114 lsa vs. 112 lsa if you care...
what advantage to porting the sr if any? what parts would be grounded. base plate, runners?
10.2 isn't that bad....
LSA = lobe separation angle....lower lsa means more valve overlap... exhaust/intake lobes are positioned closer together. Look up "Got Lobes camshaft" on the net for more detail about terminology and effect.
Porting the base & runners of the superram WILL increase power -- esp mid/high rpm power for a 383 with 195 heads. It can raise the peak too (depending on limits of your other parts).





Gregg that really breaks it down a lot

(I would have responded yesterday, but I couldn't concentrate long enough to make it thru your one, looooooong..... sentence!
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that is nuts, thanks for the info

