Question on nitrous.
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Question on nitrous.
I've read a lot of posts on using nitrous, and many of them have said that you need to understand nitrous. Well, that puts me out of the running, so I just thought I'd ask - what exactly does one need to understand? I'd love to have that instant boost of power, but I don't wanna scrap my engine. :nonod:
Thanks for any input. :)
Thanks for any input. :)
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Re: Question on nitrous. (92BAV)
well it just lets you burn more oxygen by injecting it directly into the intake, it causes temps to skyrocket and stresses on the pistons, heads, etc to skyrocket too. You just cant turn on the juice often, the less you use it the better off your engine will be, most guys will only use it at the track or some race situation.
With juice, its not IF it blows, its WHEN it blows
With juice, its not IF it blows, its WHEN it blows
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Re: Question on nitrous. (92BAV)
Moderation is the key to success when using Nitrous. You just have to stay within the limitation of your motor and hope nothing goes wrong outside of your control.
A good informational site is http://www.N2O.org
A good informational site is http://www.N2O.org
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Re: Question on nitrous. (Vette92)
If you use your head, dont get greedy and know when you are having a problem ( detonation, pinging, breaking up etc.....) then you wont have any problems :D. If you take your time, start with a smaller shot and work your way up as well as taking the proper precautions, you will most likely have trouble free use.
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Re: Question on nitrous. (85 Dave)
Vader86, 85Dave, and Noworries, I would be interested to know exactely how many nitrous systems have you installed, used or experimented with before you came up with all of your infinite wisdom on Nitrous Oxide use.
On the lighter side, I believe you should understand how nitrous offers this extra horsepower. With that knowledge and the basics of how an engine works you will be able to tell if you are running lean, the sound of detonation, how temperature effects bottle pressure. On cold days you may run a little leaner than usual if you have a bottle heater. I would pick up a good nitrous oxide book, read it, and then come back with more questions after you get the basics. (its not that difficult) Then decide for yourself if you are ready for the bottle. Don't let a few people who think they know alot about nitrous sway you away from using it.
[Modified by ANTI VENOM, 7:09 AM 1/25/2002]
On the lighter side, I believe you should understand how nitrous offers this extra horsepower. With that knowledge and the basics of how an engine works you will be able to tell if you are running lean, the sound of detonation, how temperature effects bottle pressure. On cold days you may run a little leaner than usual if you have a bottle heater. I would pick up a good nitrous oxide book, read it, and then come back with more questions after you get the basics. (its not that difficult) Then decide for yourself if you are ready for the bottle. Don't let a few people who think they know alot about nitrous sway you away from using it.
[Modified by ANTI VENOM, 7:09 AM 1/25/2002]
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Re: Question on nitrous. (ANTI VENOM)
I CAN'T comment on how well it works in a car, I've NEVER used it... IN A CAR..
However when I went to the dentist for a root canal, the NO2 worked PERFECT.. :D :D :D
I was laughing the whole time....... & his FAT ugly dental assistant looked like Britny Spears... :lol:
Shezzzzzzzz I love that stuff... Now I go to the dentist once a week weather I need him or not..
As for his ugly nurse, I borrow the tank of NO2, & my wife looks like "Jungle Pam"... I'm sure you "old timers" remember her :D
However when I went to the dentist for a root canal, the NO2 worked PERFECT.. :D :D :D
I was laughing the whole time....... & his FAT ugly dental assistant looked like Britny Spears... :lol:
Shezzzzzzzz I love that stuff... Now I go to the dentist once a week weather I need him or not..
As for his ugly nurse, I borrow the tank of NO2, & my wife looks like "Jungle Pam"... I'm sure you "old timers" remember her :D
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Re: Question on nitrous. (92BAV)
NOS isn't bad by itself but when things go wrong they really go wrong. I recommend getting a book on nitrous and reading it throughly until you understand whats involved. Then follow the mfs recommendations on boost versus engine setup. I recommend puting some safety equipment to keep the motor from being toasted. Put a fuel pressure safety switch, rpm nitrous controller, retard ignition module that also boosts ignition energy.
Detonation is another serious problem with NOS. Detontation under large amounts of boost will fatigue and break the pistons and do the same for the crankshaft. The crank will take longer but it will fail if its hammered on long enough. Pay close attention to spark plug wire routing to prevent cross firing. The #5 and #7 cylinders are notorious for crossfire problems. Keep an inch center to center between the wires.
NOS seems cheap but its quite expensive to do it correctly. A blower is a better to way to go in the long run IMHO.
In case anyone is interested, there is a website that discusses how to purify the autograde NOS so the sulfur dioxide additive won't harm you if you 'accidentally' inhale it. It involves passing the gas through water with baking soda in a two step process.
Detonation is another serious problem with NOS. Detontation under large amounts of boost will fatigue and break the pistons and do the same for the crankshaft. The crank will take longer but it will fail if its hammered on long enough. Pay close attention to spark plug wire routing to prevent cross firing. The #5 and #7 cylinders are notorious for crossfire problems. Keep an inch center to center between the wires.
NOS seems cheap but its quite expensive to do it correctly. A blower is a better to way to go in the long run IMHO.
In case anyone is interested, there is a website that discusses how to purify the autograde NOS so the sulfur dioxide additive won't harm you if you 'accidentally' inhale it. It involves passing the gas through water with baking soda in a two step process.
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Re: Question on nitrous. (AquaMetallic94LT1)
I dont how about a blower being better. I agree if you have $15k for the blower setup and a new motor...But that is a completely different field of performance. I plan on going the blower motor route on my next car. But for now My daily driver can have a little shot of Nitrous... The only shop within an hour of my house that sells nitrous, only sells medical grade. A little over $5 a pound.
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Re: Question on nitrous. (92BAV)
Na, It not worth it :D
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Re: Question on nitrous. (95BLKVette)
Just wanted to add my 2 cents regarding Nitrous, I think I have a little experience on this subject I can add.
It cost me over $1,200 for my NOS 5174 Custom LT-1 dry kit 1-1/2 years ago and it blew No. 2 into the pan.....remember? :U
If you are thinking of using it, just make sure you understand what you are getting into and hope you don't make any careless mistakes, caues they can end up being a very expensive lesson when you play with the juice :cry
Other than that....ENJOY :cheers:
[Modified by 95BLKVette, 3:28 PM 1/26/2002]
It cost me over $1,200 for my NOS 5174 Custom LT-1 dry kit 1-1/2 years ago and it blew No. 2 into the pan.....remember? :U
If you are thinking of using it, just make sure you understand what you are getting into and hope you don't make any careless mistakes, caues they can end up being a very expensive lesson when you play with the juice :cry
Other than that....ENJOY :cheers:
[Modified by 95BLKVette, 3:28 PM 1/26/2002]
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Re: Question on nitrous. (mackeyred96)
Just wanted to add my 2 cents regarding Nitrous, I think I have a little experience on this subject I can add.
It cost me over $1,200 for my NOS 5174 Custom LT-1 dry kit 1-1/2 years ago and it blew No. 2 into the pan.....remember? :U
If you are thinking of using it, just make sure you understand what you are getting into and hope you don't make any careless mistakes, caues they can end up being a very expensive lesson when you play with the juice :cry
Other than that....ENJOY :cheers:
It cost me over $1,200 for my NOS 5174 Custom LT-1 dry kit 1-1/2 years ago and it blew No. 2 into the pan.....remember? :U
If you are thinking of using it, just make sure you understand what you are getting into and hope you don't make any careless mistakes, caues they can end up being a very expensive lesson when you play with the juice :cry
Other than that....ENJOY :cheers:
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Re: Question on nitrous. (Red96Coupe)
Nope!
Haven't quite had the urge yet John :rolleyes:
And just in case your curious.....my tranny apparently died from my TCI converter just giving up.....wasn't even havin any fun when it happened :mad
Haven't quite had the urge yet John :rolleyes:
And just in case your curious.....my tranny apparently died from my TCI converter just giving up.....wasn't even havin any fun when it happened :mad
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Re: Question on nitrous. (95BLKVette)
I wouldn't run nitrous on a stock LT1 on a dare. The stock hypereutectic pistons are really sensitive to detonation and too fragile for nitrous use,IMO. Rattle them hard one time and you're probably looking to re-do that engine. Some engines can handle a lot of juice; LT1's aren't one of them. If you just can't stand to leave well enough alone,I wouldn't run any more than a 100shot,,tops!
It's always interesting to hear the nitrous "experts" come out of the woodwork. Nitrous increases the operating temp of an engine? That was good for a laugh.
It's always interesting to hear the nitrous "experts" come out of the woodwork. Nitrous increases the operating temp of an engine? That was good for a laugh.
