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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 08:11 AM
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I am looking at buying a 1996 CE and the seller is advertising it with the FX3 suspension. My understanding is that the 95 Corvette was the last year for the FX3 and in 96 it was replaced with the F45 Selective Real Time Damping (especially being a CE model).

Can anyone clarify this issue?

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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 09:02 AM
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From what I can find, you are correct.
But it wasn't only available on the CE models. F45 was an available option on all 96 Corvettes.

The seller might not know the difference though, and sees an adjustable suspension so assumes FX3. Just a thought.

http://www.100megsfree4.com/corvette/1990/vet96.htm

On all Corvettes, 1996 marked the introduction of the optional Selective Real Time Damping system that employed sensors at each wheel to measure movement.
RPO F45 Electronic Selective Real Time Damping $1695
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 10:01 AM
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From what I can find, you are correct.
But it wasn't only available on the CE models. F45 was an available option on all 96 Corvettes.

The seller might not know the difference though, and sees an adjustable suspension so assumes FX3. Just a thought.

http://www.100megsfree4.com/corvette/1990/vet96.htm

On all Corvettes, 1996 marked the introduction of the optional Selective Real Time Damping system that employed sensors at each wheel to measure movement.
RPO F45 Electronic Selective Real Time Damping $1695
I just spoke with the seller on the phone and he is 100% confident that it is a FX3. He belongs to a local Corvette club.....he is a car enthusiast....owns a 07 Vette, 65 Mustang, 32 Coupe, 08 Lincoln, 05 Blazer, 08 F-250 Ford p/u, 09 Harley......and knows cars......... Anyway back to the 96 CE......All my material and publications indicate that this year did NOT have the FX3, especially the CE.....but I am somewhat new to the Corvette market.....anyone else want to weigh in on this?
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 11:05 AM
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Check the RPO codes on the build sheet, Behind RT side seat in the compartment. I bnelieve your are corecct 1995 was the last year for
FX3.

RPO F45:Selective Real Time Damping.

"RPO F45 Selective Real Time Damping, was priced the same ($1,695) as 1995's FX3 Selective Ride option, but was substantially different. Using data from wheel travel sensors and the Powertrain Control Module, a controller calculated the damping mode that would provide opumum control via special shock absorbers. It could alter each shock individually (unlike the earlier system which changed all shocks simultaneously) every 10 to 15 milliseconds or about every foot of roadway travelilng at 60 mph."

Hope this helps.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 11:31 AM
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Either it is not a 96 or it doesn't have FX3 and/or the owner doesn't know what he is talking about.
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Old Jan 29, 2009 | 11:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Leec4ce
Check the RPO codes on the build sheet, Behind RT side seat in the compartment. I bnelieve your are corecct 1995 was the last year for
FX3.

RPO F45:Selective Real Time Damping.

"RPO F45 Selective Real Time Damping, was priced the same ($1,695) as 1995's FX3 Selective Ride option, but was substantially different. Using data from wheel travel sensors and the Powertrain Control Module, a controller calculated the damping mode that would provide opumum control via special shock absorbers. It could alter each shock individually (unlike the earlier system which changed all shocks simultaneously) every 10 to 15 milliseconds or about every foot of roadway travelilng at 60 mph."

Hope this helps.
Thanks. I mentioned the RPO number to him but was not sure where they would be located. I assumed a glove compartment. I may go look at the car over the weekend and check for myself. He also mentioned that the previous owner had rotated the tires front to back, which did not make sense to me because they should be different size tires unless they purchased new rims.

The F45 is pretty impressive technology. My only concern is that it appears to be based on computer chips, sensors, controllers and it seems like it is only a matter of time before they need to replace part of this system and hopefully they are not obsolete.

Do you know if you can really tell the difference with the F45 vs FX 3 vs just regular shocks?
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The RPO codes should be under the center console lid and wuld be very easy to tell either it says FX3 or F45

This reminds me of the 89 ZR1 vert, auto thread of a while back
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Originally Posted by K.C.E.
My only concern is that it appears to be based on computer chips, sensors, controllers and it seems like it is only a matter of time before they need to replace part of this system and hopefully they are not obsolete.

Do you know if you can really tell the difference with the F45 vs FX 3 vs just regular shocks?
The entire induction system/drivetrain/ASR/ABS/HVAC etc. on the LTx cars is " based on computer chips, sensors, controllers ".

If the current owner states that the PO rotated the front/rear tires, I would suspect that he doesn't know much about C4's.

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Originally Posted by joecarter85
The entire induction system/drivetrain/ASR/ABS/HVAC etc. on the LTx cars is " based on computer chips, sensors, controllers ".

If the current owner states that the PO rotated the front/rear tires, I would suspect that he doesn't know much about C4's.


Good point.......I guess I have become gun-shy with all my Microsoft crashes over the years and from an engineering perspective I get nervous with 'first-year' technology, but at this point, a LOT of corvette owners have proven the system and I am not reading anything negative about it.....and I am beginning to feel that this guy has so many other cars and responsibilities that he may not have the time to know much about his '96 Vette. (i.e. FX 3 vs F45, tire sizes and location, etc.).
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Originally Posted by K.C.E.
I just spoke with the seller on the phone and he is 100% confident that it is a FX3.
Well, he is 100% wrong. But, a lot of people see the ride control switch and have no clue there are three different "generations". So it can be easy for them to mix up the proper names. (Not really worth a pissing match.)

For the MY`96, the RPO sticker will be located in the storage compartment behind the passenger seat.

If it has the F45 shocks, then it will have base FE1 suspension with 8.5" 255s on front, and 9.5" 285s on rear. In this case, a F/R rotation is not acceptable.

Check all four tires currently on it. It may quite possibly have the two 8.5" wheels with 275 or 285 tires on them. There is a factory sticker in the driver's door jam, that will state the original tire size of 255 & 285.

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Originally Posted by Redeasysport
Either it is not a 96 or it doesn't have FX3 and/or the owner doesn't know what he is talking about.
Something is not right here. I'm thinking
Not much of a Vette guy if you ask me. I wonder what else he's not telling you!!
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Originally Posted by 94ZR1
The RPO codes should be under the center console lid and wuld be very easy to tell either it says FX3 or F45
The RPO codes for the 1996 Corvette are on the bottom side of the storage compartment lid behind the passenger seat.

Edit: Sorry, should have read Z-07 freak's post closer. He beat me to the correct location of the RPO sticker.
He also listed why it could be possible to rotate the tires front to back.

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Originally Posted by RollaMo-LT4
Edit: Sorry, should have read Z-07 freak's post closer.
He also listed why it could be possible to rotate the tires front to back.
I edited it. I forgot the Z51 package, (with the same size F&R wheels and tires) could not be combined with the F45 option.
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