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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 09:39 AM
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Originally Posted by theadmiral94
I've done this on my boat engine's coolant system with great sucess and would love to use this on our LT1 engines -- but wonder how with all the 'ports' high on the engine.

So, to what do you 'connect' the shop-vac, to allow evacuation of all the lower sections of the block?
Place a large pan under the radiator petcock, open the petcock valve, remove the radiator cap, then put the Shop Vac hose over the radiator opening.

With the engine warmed and the thermostat open, the blown air will force ALL the coolant out of the system.

Hold the hose in place until nothing but air comes out.

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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 04:49 PM
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Originally Posted by onedef92
Place a large pan under the radiator petcock, open the petcock valve, remove the radiator cap, then put the Shop Vac hose over the radiator opening.

With the engine warmed and the thermostat open, the blown air will force ALL the coolant out of the system.

Hold the hose in place until nothing but air comes out.
Presume you've done this on your 1992 Vette (per profile). By 'radiator' do you mean the 'surge tank' (black tank by windshield)?

My experience is thermostats are slow to open and close pretty quickly after the heat source is removed (e.g. engine or stove when testing) -- so this would have to be done after engine is fully up to temp and very quickly thereafter, TRUE?

Have you ever 'measured' the amount of coolant you were able to 'blow' out of your LT1 engine (or put back in) and did it very closely match its capacity (18 qts +/-)?
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Old Feb 18, 2009 | 06:34 PM
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Originally Posted by onedef92
Place a large pan under the radiator petcock, open the petcock valve, remove the radiator cap, then put the Shop Vac hose over the radiator opening.

With the engine warmed and the thermostat open, the blown air will force ALL the coolant out of the system.

Hold the hose in place until nothing but air comes out.
I'm going to try this out this coming weekend and measure how much fluid actually comes out. As for the thermostat, I'll close up the housing without it so I've got unrestricted flow.

I'm guessing by radiator opening we are talking about the surge tank.
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Originally Posted by theadmiral94
Presume you've done this on your 1992 Vette (per profile). By 'radiator' do you mean the 'surge tank' (black tank by windshield)?

My experience is thermostats are slow to open and close pretty quickly after the heat source is removed (e.g. engine or stove when testing) -- so this would have to be done after engine is fully up to temp and very quickly thereafter, TRUE?

Have you ever 'measured' the amount of coolant you were able to 'blow' out of your LT1 engine (or put back in) and did it very closely match its capacity (18 qts +/-)?
Correct. Your engine should be warm, NOT HOT (for safety purposes) with the radiator fully opened at operating temps. Perform the procedure as soon as you know the 'stat is open.

Correct again. The radiator surge tank near the windshield. Be sure and keep your TB bleed valves CLOSED during the procedure. You won't open them until you refill the coolant system, per standard procedure.

I didn't measure the coolant that was blown out, but I can tell you no coolant at all came out of the knock sensors after I removed them to test my theory. My method definitely saves time from having to remove the knock sensors.

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....I didn't measure the coolant that was blown out, but I can tell you no coolant at all came out of the knock sensors after I removed them to test my theory. My method definitely saves time from having to remove the knock sensors.
Now that's great to hear -- great and complete testing --- so thanks ... will do it next doing coolant on our LT1 and LS1 (figure if it works for one... ).
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Originally Posted by theadmiral94
Now that's great to hear -- great and complete testing --- so thanks ... will do it next doing coolant on our LT1 and LS1 (figure if it works for one... ).
Ain't physics grand? Bernoulli's principle like a ****!
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should be flushing threw the surge tank and all the lines connected to it then empty out of the bottom of the radiator
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Old Mar 14, 2009 | 11:16 PM
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Originally Posted by onedef92
Correct. Your engine should be warm, NOT HOT (for safety purposes) with the radiator fully opened at operating temps. Perform the procedure as soon as you know the 'stat is open.

Correct again. The radiator surge tank near the windshield. Be sure and keep your TB bleed valves CLOSED during the procedure. You won't open them until you refill the coolant system, per standard procedure.

I didn't measure the coolant that was blown out, but I can tell you no coolant at all came out of the knock sensors after I removed them to test my theory. My method definitely saves time from having to remove the knock sensors.
L98's don't have a surge tank by the windshield. I think your method would work better with the thermostat removed. Don't have to worry if it is open or closed.

Can you flush all the coolant out via the throttle body coolant hoses or the heater hoses? I figured I could pop those off, and run water in there. But then again, I dont' know where they drain to.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
L98's don't have a surge tank by the windshield. I think your method would work better with the thermostat removed. Don't have to worry if it is open or closed.

Can you flush all the coolant out via the throttle body coolant hoses or the heater hoses? I figured I could pop those off, and run water in there. But then again, I dont' know where they drain to.
I've never removed the TB hoses during this procedure, so I don't know.

However, when I squeezed the TB hoses and coolant after the system was empty, nothing came out. So I assume the system was completely evacuated by this time.

Or, if any amounts remained, they were negligible.

And I agree. Removing the thermostat is a good idea. That way, you don't have to worry about the system being opened or closed.

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Originally Posted by onedef92
I've never removed the TB hoses during this procedure, so I don't know.

However, when I squeezed the TB hoses and coolant after the system was empty, nothing came out. So I assume the system was completely evacuated by this time.

Or, if any amounts remained, they were negligible.

And I agree. Removing the thermostat is a good idea. That way, you don't have to worry about the system being opened or closed.
How would you do your method on an L98? All it has is the overflow tank, and the radiator. Nothing by the windshield.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
How would you do your method on an L98? All it has is the overflow tank, and the radiator. Nothing by the windshield.
Does the L-98 radiator have an opening on it? If so, remove the radiator cap, then put the vacuum's blower hose over the opening.
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Originally Posted by onedef92
Does the L-98 radiator have an opening on it? If so, remove the radiator cap, then put the vacuum's blower hose over the opening.
Yeah, it's got a radiator cap. When you say the car is warm. I'm guessing you are talking about warming the car up so the thermostat will open, then shut the car off? I wasn't quite sure if you had the car running, but believe you turned if off.

Anyways if so, then I'd just remove the thermostat and have the car cold.

So, take thermostat out and bolt back the housing.
Open petcock and drain radiator.
Put blower in radiator cap opening and turn it on to blow?

Where exactly is the air blowing in the radiator to push all the coolant out of the system? I'm wondering if this is something that is best used via the surge tank instead of the radiator. As I don't see how it would work through the radiator.

I can see it working through the surge tank as I believe that is the highest point in the coolant system. So by blowing air in there, with gravity, it would force the coolant out. But I don't have a surge tank. I guess I could try it via the heater hoses and the throttle body hoses to see what that does.

Does anyone have a photo diagram of the cooling system for the L98 engine and LT1 engine? That would give us a better idea of where the coolant flows.
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