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Old Mar 19, 2009 | 09:27 PM
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Ok. I decided to be brave and tackle this project of changing the fuel injectors on my 1989 Corvette (thanks Jon Banner for great prices and service!). How the heck do I get to the bottom torx bolts on the runners? Is there a tool I can buy to make it easier getting in there?
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You have to remove the plenum first. Then a long 3/8" extension to get to the bolts with a torx that fits the 3/8" extension. There are also bolts on the inside of the runners. BE SURE TO LABEL each bolt as you pull them off......they are different sizes

Also be prepared to fashon some form of plug for your fuel lines....even with the pressure released the lines will leak. You don't want fuel spilling and flowing for any length of time.
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Thanks for the advice. I got the plenum out and labeled the bolts. Now, do I really need to remove the runners to replace the injectors or can I get to the fuel rails while leaving the runners intact?
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It's easier just to remove the runners. There's one torx bolt on the passenger side near the front that gets removed from the back side.
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Just to throw this in, be careful when putting the plenum back on. I almost stripped a few holes out because it was really tough lining up everything, it was a tight fit, so just take your time
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It's easier just to remove the runners. There's one torx bolt on the passenger side near the front that gets removed from the back side.
Actually there are two which must be removed from the back side.
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Thanks for the advice. I got the plenum out and labeled the bolts. Now, do I really need to remove the runners to replace the injectors or can I get to the fuel rails while leaving the runners intact?
Yes. You have to remove the EGR valve and collapse the fuel rail before removal though. It won't come out w/o doing that.

To collapse the fuel rail, remove the two crossover tubes.
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I hope your injectors were tested for flow and electrical. I put in a new set on my 90 and had one bad one and had to go through the hole thing again. But its easier the second time around lol
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Originally Posted by davlabo
Ok. I decided to be brave and tackle this project of changing the fuel injectors on my 1989 Corvette (thanks Jon Banner for great prices and service!). How the heck do I get to the bottom torx bolts on the runners? Is there a tool I can buy to make it easier getting in there?
You do not have to remove the runners in order to have access to the injectors. I agree that removing the runners will allow easier access to the injectors, but the injectors can be removed by leaving the runners attached to the intake manifold. I have done this many times.
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Originally Posted by ride250s
Just to throw this in, be careful when putting the plenum back on. I almost stripped a few holes out because it was really tough lining up everything, it was a tight fit, so just take your time
This is another reason to remove the runners. If you leave the passenger side runner loose when reassembling, its easier to get the plenum on and you don't damage gaskets. Make sure you check for fuel leaks before reassembling the runners and plenum. Oh and don't forget the connector on the bottom of the plenum. I made that mistake. Felt like an idiot.
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[QUOTE=John A. Marker;1569367330] BE SURE TO LABEL each bolt as you pull them off......they are different sizes


I had my bolts in a magnetic tray that the gremlins kicked to the floor. I have 2 bolts that are 1/4 in. longer than the plenum bolts and am not sure which holes that they go in. I don't want to have a vacuum leak when i put it back together. Any ideas?
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[QUOTE=krazy1;1574855428]
Originally Posted by John A. Marker
BE SURE TO LABEL each bolt as you pull them off......they are different sizes


I had my bolts in a magnetic tray that the gremlins kicked to the floor. I have 2 bolts that are 1/4 in. longer than the plenum bolts and am not sure which holes that they go in. I don't want to have a vacuum leak when i put it back together. Any ideas?
Stick something, like a cut off piece olf coat hangar, into the bolt holes and see how deep they are before bottoming out. That'll tell you.

I've removed the fuel rails with the injectors still attached (86 Vette) to pressurize the fuel system to see if any injector was leaking. Too late in your case though.

No need to make this little task more complicated then need be is how I approached it.

Jake
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Originally Posted by davlabo
Ok. I decided to be brave and tackle this project of changing the fuel injectors on my 1989 Corvette (thanks Jon Banner for great prices and service!). How the heck do I get to the bottom torx bolts on the runners? Is there a tool I can buy to make it easier getting in there?
The outboard bottom bolts on the runners I got using one of 2 tools. The first one being a "T" whatever size socket on a 3/8 drive. The length of torx bit was double what you would normally find, got them from Harbor Freight, made easy to remove and tighten the outboard bolts. The second tool I used was just for reinstallation to get the bolts started, it was screwdriver type torx tool. The 2 inside bolts weren't easy, but I fashioned a quick tool to do it. I took a torx bit from a bit driver set, inserted it into a 1/4 drive socket (I can't remember the size) and used a long 1/4 extension with a universal. It lays low, clears everything and makes it easy to remove those 2 bolts.

You can remove the injectors without actually removing the runners. Removal of the plenum usually gives you the room. However, mine wouldn't come out without loosening the runners. At that point it was easier to remove the runners as well and send both plenum and runners to get cleaned and bead blasted.
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