1990 theft deterrent system problems
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From: LA California
Heel & Toe
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From: spokane Wa
CCM replacement
first off another thanks to Chevylu for the links... 
Mike o... i strongly recoment you read the thread links he provided.. the guy has a 94 with same symptoms as us and they had alot of feedback from other members.
anyway i just got off the phone with Ken Andersen at K & B special products and i told him how i came to the conclution of the CCM being bad and i also told him all symptoms and he confirmed that it is more then likely the CCM... but i advise you to double check connections before calling him.
He basicly said that usually the circut board itself is ok (no bad resisters or burnt traces etc.) but since it is a computer, the software program itself can simply start functing weird after time... possibly due to voltage spikes, jump starts, etc..?.. causing it to act like this. what he does is record important info such as milage and vats code.. then he erases everything and reloads it with a new version of the factory software, then re-programs the milage and vats code so when you get it back your ready to go... no need to have the dealer reflash
im sending mine out first thing tomorrow i will let you all know when i get it back I CANT WAIT!!!!! i really think this will fix it!!!
Mike o... i strongly recoment you read the thread links he provided.. the guy has a 94 with same symptoms as us and they had alot of feedback from other members.
anyway i just got off the phone with Ken Andersen at K & B special products and i told him how i came to the conclution of the CCM being bad and i also told him all symptoms and he confirmed that it is more then likely the CCM... but i advise you to double check connections before calling him.
He basicly said that usually the circut board itself is ok (no bad resisters or burnt traces etc.) but since it is a computer, the software program itself can simply start functing weird after time... possibly due to voltage spikes, jump starts, etc..?.. causing it to act like this. what he does is record important info such as milage and vats code.. then he erases everything and reloads it with a new version of the factory software, then re-programs the milage and vats code so when you get it back your ready to go... no need to have the dealer reflash
im sending mine out first thing tomorrow
i will let you all know when i get it back I CANT WAIT!!!!! i really think this will fix it!!!
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K & B Special Products
1015 Nine North Drive
Alpharetta, GA (Georgia) 30004-5945
Phone: (770) 777-1031
The reason I ask is that there is another K&B Special Products at
5175 Overbend Trl Nw, Suwanee, GA 30024
(770) 932-0867
Back in September of '07, member USAFPILOT said it cost him $295 + shipping; is this what you're looking at?
Heel & Toe
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From: spokane Wa
yes, thats the one... in Alpharetta, GA, (770) 777-1031.. i could be mistakin but i think he said $275... i was so happy to find someone that can do it correctly i wasn't paying to much attention to price he says they can do ECM's also so thats good to know. and he sounds like a good guy, that knows his business for sure!! and if you leave a message he actually calls you back which is rare these days. 
i sent it out monday the 11th fedex 2 day.. he said he has alot ahead of me but he should be able to ship it back to me 2 or 3 days after he recives it... so hopefully ill be putting it back in the vette next week
he says they can do ECM's also so thats good to know. and he sounds like a good guy, that knows his business for sure!! and if you leave a message he actually calls you back which is rare these days. i sent it out monday the 11th fedex 2 day.. he said he has alot ahead of me but he should be able to ship it back to me 2 or 3 days after he recives it... so hopefully ill be putting it back in the vette next week
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It worked!!!!!!
UPDATE...
Mike O, if your still out there i recomend calling Ken at the number above and sending him your CCM... i got mine back the other day, installed it right away and followed the supplied instructions for getting the VATS code programed and she fired right up and i haven't had any of the previous problems at all... starts right up every time and the LCD works great now. $275 well spent (plus shipping)
chevylu, once again i appreciate your patience and help... and your right, the FSM is well worth the money and its easy to read and understand too.. thanks again to everyone for the input!!
to another vette back on the road
good luck mike, any thing i can do to help you, feel free to contact me.
Mike O, if your still out there i recomend calling Ken at the number above and sending him your CCM... i got mine back the other day, installed it right away and followed the supplied instructions for getting the VATS code programed and she fired right up and i haven't had any of the previous problems at all... starts right up every time and the LCD works great now. $275 well spent
(plus shipping)chevylu, once again i appreciate your patience and help... and your right, the FSM is well worth the money and its easy to read and understand too.. thanks again to everyone for the input!!
to another vette back on the road good luck mike, any thing i can do to help you, feel free to contact me.
