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my dad found an 88 [same year as mine] vette 4+3 that was totaled. Gonna check out if the rear end is salvageable. Can anyone give me a list of everything I need to swap out my 36 for a D44?
The 88 (4+3) should have 3:07's. 3:07's were the performance gears for all auto's (standard gears for the 84). I think you should be able to use your C-beam and drive shaft. The ones off of a 4+3 won't fit if you have an auto. The D44's every one wants are the ones out of the 89 up 6spds (better gears).
I have a base model vette, i doubt it has the "performance" 3.07's. Is there a way to check it according to VIN?
Im not too concerned about he rear, any D44 will work, and is an improvement over my worn D36.
Did the swap this past winter. Very easy. The D44 drops right in using the parts listed above.
I thought just the 84's had the 3.07's? All the other years I think are the 2.59's.
While you're removing everything from the "donor" you want to take the speed-sensor & gear from the 4 + 3 also. It's what you will need for the 3.07 ratio and the drive gear (internal to the trans) is the same. You'll need the 42 tooth gear and the sensor is required for 40+ teeth. It's a "good find"! People "invert" the 39- sensor but it's certainly not the desired install.
If the "donor" is hit either side or front "hard" you need to inspect the "through bolt" bores on the D44 closely and the "bat-wing" needs a real good going over. They're not "fragile" but they're easily damaged. Finding the damage "after the buy" could really ruin your day!!
Surest way to figure out your rear gears is to jack up the rear, put the car in neutral, and count the driveshaft rotations compared to the rear wheel rotation. I amended my original post because of some confusion.
The 88 (4+3) should have 3:07's. 3:07's were the performance gears for all auto's (standard gears for the 84). I think you should be able to use your C-beam and drive shaft. The ones off of a 4+3 won't fit if you have an auto. The D44's every one wants are the ones out of the 89 up 6spds (better gears).
Here's where you confused me. You mentioned he should be able to use his c-beam and drive shaft. You mention the 4+3 stuff won't fit! By "better gears" I'm guessing you meant "more desirable ratios"?
Explain please!
A D44 C-beam is a fit all C4's with D44 regardless of year!
I meant better ratio's, though there are some slight differences in the cases (I'm fairly certain there is no dimensional differences between the two 44's, although both of mine are out of 6 spd cars). I was under the impression that the differences in lengths of the Cbeams and driveshaft were due to the differences in transmission sizes. I think you have shown me (to be) wrong.
Wasn't out to show anyone "wrong" and I meant to mention it in my earlier post but didn't want to create an issue. I only mentioned it because of the later thread regarding it!
Regarding the housings, I've always been told that the early were the more desirable if you were shopping for a build. They certainly appear to be a bit more "stout". Are they? Don't know! Physical attaching points are the same.
The 88 (4+3) should have 3:07's. 3:07's were the performance gears for all auto's (standard gears for the 84). I think you should be able to use your C-beam and drive shaft. The ones off of a 4+3 won't fit if you have an auto. The D44's every one wants are the ones out of the 89 up 6spds (better gears).
Oh really? Guess the Dana 44 that I swapped into my '96 auto didn't fit then, being that it was out of a 4+3...
I was under the impression that the differences in lengths of the C beams and driveshaft were due to the differences in transmission sizes.
The C beam differences relate to the diff ; not the trans. All three trans (A4 /4+3 / ZF6) have the beam mounting holes in the same location (relative to the frame) which is why a beam change is not needed when oly doing a trans swap.
As WVZR-1 mentions a D44 beam will fit any D44 installation because as the diff head is longer , the beam has to be shorter .
So is diff, batwing, driveshaft and c beam all i need or should i pick up this "speed sensor" and gear
You definitely want the "speed-sensor" and the 42 tooth gear that is likely on it!!! Don't leave it "behind"!!!
Everything you have sounds fine. Just check everything for "damage", do the 6 u-joints "just because" you're there and pay particular attention to the install of the "through bolts"of the c-beam on both ends! That can't be stressed enough! Either buy beam-plates or make sure you use new "prevailing torque" nuts!