When I came out of the gas station tonight I turn the key and nothing! No fuel pump noise for a few seconds like it normally does. I'm thinkin the vats just got me :mad so I lock and unlock the doors (worked the last time) nothing. The security light is flashing :confused: because the last time it happened(over 1 year ago) no security light. I'm going to have to have it towed back to my house in the morning( 1/2 mile away ) :mad and order the bybass kit. The only other thing I can think of is the fuel pump because the car has been running like a dog the past couple of days. I also checked the fuses (all good) and for codes, all that comes up is code 12. Anything else I should be checking out :(


Thanks,
Rich


[Modified by snydcat, 1:55 AM 2/7/2002]


[Modified by snydcat, 2:54 AM 2/7/2002]


[Modified by snydcat, 1:59 PM 2/7/2002]

 

Hi!

Can't really tell you what the problem is but it's probably not VATS as this was intoduced in 86. Also the VATS does not kill the fuel pump as you described. I know the 85 has the alarm (that flashes the Security-light when not activated) but this will not keep the car from starting as far as I know.

When you turn on the ignition, is it totally dead? As in no lights on the cluster and no heater-fan or nothing ? If this is the case, you may have a problem with the ingnition-switch or as simple as the battery connection.. Just guessing here ...

 

I finally got the car started. The first time I tried nothin, the second time she fired up but running really bad! like it's running on 6 cylinders. When she didn't start I had all accesseries, lights, cluster, everything. I have replaced the ignition module and coil within the last six months both A/C Delco, replaced the distributor cap rotor and plug wires a little over a year ago(about 15k miles). The plugs I changed a couple of days ago and checked the wires for arching (all good) when it started running rough and no change. I won't be able to get to my mechanic til Monday, until then any guesses or suggestions on what I should be checking is more than appreciated.

Thanks,
Rich

When I went to get the car this morning at the gas station I turned the corner and I see red stuff all over my car :mad thinking it was paint :cuss . It turned out to be ketchup from one end to the other, every panel,window, wheel, everything :mad . They must have used a gallon, I had to pull my door panels off after washing it to get the ketchup out of the outer window seals :cuss . If I ever catch somebody vandalizing mine or anybodys car I will personally break my foot off in their **** and go get another leg (I have a prothetic Right leg) and repeat the procedure :mad :mad :mad


[Modified by snydcat, 1:47 PM 2/7/2002]


[Modified by snydcat, 1:56 PM 2/7/2002]

 

Sound a lot like a dead battery/bad alternator.

 

Snydcat,

Towards the end of summer my 86 would start first thing in the morning, but after it got warmed up and I stopped somewhere, when I went back to start it again it wouldn't start....... All lights worked, but no ignition.

After getting the bypass kit, it continued to do the same thing.

Put in a new starter, and that cured it for about a week.

Put in another starter with a heat shield, and it hasn't happened again.

Check you battery, but don't rule out the starter......

 

Thanks, I will check the battery this weekend but when I turn the key the volts say 12.9 and when it starts it stays at 14.6 for a few minutes and with everything on lights, radio etc. it has never gone below 13.5 :confused:. I'm also wondering way it's running so rough like it's not hitting on all cylinders.

Rich