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Old May 29, 2009 | 09:25 AM
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OK, picked up a new main cat from MidAmerica, direct replacement for the 1989. Fits great into the Y-pipe so the main install is no issue.

The AIR pipe that run from near the passenger exhaust down to the cat is the issue. What is the typical connection method for this? The original had a interesting type of crimp on a flared type end that I managed to bend enough to separate it from the old cat. The new cat has just a tube with no special fitting.

What is the typical way of connecting these?

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OK, picked up a new main cat from MidAmerica, direct replacement for the 1989. Fits great into the Y-pipe so the main install is no issue.

The AIR pipe that run from near the passenger exhaust down to the cat is the issue. What is the typical connection method for this? The original had a interesting type of crimp on a flared type end that I managed to bend enough to separate it from the old cat. The new cat has just a tube with no special fitting.

What is the typical way of connecting these?
cut your original pipe off your cat and have it welded onto the new cat, maybe a pipe compression fitting to connect them, splice the two pipes together and clamp.
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cut your original pipe off your cat and have it welded onto the new cat, maybe a pipe compression fitting to connect them, splice the two pipes together and clamp.
Interesting, Had not thought of going that route. I do have a small welder, although my skill with said tool need work!

I figured that most folk that upgrade their cat have to go through this and there is some typical fix other than welding? depending on how tight the tubes fit, I wonder if a simple hose clamp might have enough clamping force to hold it firmly. There shouldn't be any real load on it.
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Interesting, Had not thought of going that route. I do have a small welder, although my skill with said tool need work!

I figured that most folk that upgrade their cat have to go through this and there is some typical fix other than welding? depending on how tight the tubes fit, I wonder if a simple hose clamp might have enough clamping force to hold it firmly. There shouldn't be any real load on it.
f-bodies air injection pipes are clamped on with a real small looking muffler clamp. I think when I did my f-body I slipped a 1/2 inch steel pipe over the original air injection pipe and welded it to splice the two.

just set you heat on the lowest setting a do multiple tack welds all around and do one tack weld on each side at a time. after you have a few tacks then weld them together.
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I am a decent welder and have commercial welding equipment. Didn't use it for the air pipe...no need. I used two brass compression fittings. The reason for two was to get a little extra length for the tube to match the new cat and it also helped to align the tube to the cat. I also had to cut the shield and bend it a little.

compression fitting on cat.

- cat to tube compression fitting.

My cat and tube were 1/2". I added the 2nd fitting about 14" above the cat in a straight section. This allowed me to screw the fitting to the cat where the angle was difficult to start the fitting and the one upstream allowed more room to align the tube (straight). If you ever have to pull the cat it makes it easier to remove if the pipe unscrews. Things are even better if you weld flanges to your pipes and cat so they bolt in and out.

There have been other posts on this and many have just used high temp hose with a couple of hose clamps.
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Originally Posted by John A. Marker
I am a decent welder and have commercial welding equipment. Didn't use it for the air pipe...no need. I used two brass compression fittings. The reason for two was to get a little extra length for the tube to match the new cat and it also helped to align the tube to the cat. I also had to cut the shield and bend it a little.

compression fitting on cat.

- cat to tube compression fitting.

My cat and tube were 1/2". I added the 2nd fitting about 14" above the cat in a straight section. This allowed me to screw the fitting to the cat where the angle was difficult to start the fitting and the one upstream allowed more room to align the tube (straight). If you ever have to pull the cat it makes it easier to remove if the pipe unscrews. Things are even better if you weld flanges to your pipes and cat so they bolt in and out.

There have been other posts on this and many have just used high temp hose with a couple of hose clamps.
John I think that is a great install, I assume those are "garden variety" compression fittings, more of a plumbing part than automotive. I've like to go that way of maybe the high temp hose.
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