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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 10:47 PM
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I finally had a nice day to tackle this project. I followed the great pictures that were posted here from an earlier post with the step by step and it made life very easy. I actually went a few steps further and took the whole knuckle off. Anyway, I have the half shaft out and I've inspected the u joints. There was little or no grease left in them. The one attached to the spindle pivoted ok, but the one attached to the differential wouldnt pivot at all. Most likely, this was what was causing my noises.

Ok, I have the vise set up the way in the pictures and its a no go. These things are frozen in there. I sprayed some PB Blaster in there and waited 4 hours and tried again, nothing. Outside of using a hydraulic press, does anyone have any ideas?
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 11:01 PM
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Hammer and a old crappy socket that fits right over the cap usually works.
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 11:22 PM
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If yours are anything like mine were, you aren't going to beat them out.

I used a harbor freight ball joint press. (looks like a big c-clamp) I clamped the press in a bench vise and used a breaker bar to turn it. It took some serious force, and when it let go it did so with a bang.

Oddly, the replacement joints weren't all that tight of a fit. Go easy on cleaning the bores out, but do clean the snap ring grooves well.
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Old Jun 7, 2009 | 11:51 PM
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Huh??

You are dealing with Aluminum on Steel.....

Take a big socket or whatever big circular thing that will fit under....then another circular thing for a punch and hit it.....

The U-joints on the Corvette half shaft are the easiest u-joint I've ever hammered out.

I thought it was going to be hard so I took a good swing with a Claw hammer that was handy...and the damn thing almost moved all the way.....one hit...

So both side took two hits to move them.

Since I replace supposed non replaceable "Staked in" U-joints from other models, I guess this one seemed easy.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 10:47 AM
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Thanks for the tips guys. These things have been in there for 25 years and 150K miles, they were almost bone dry of grease so I am sure they swelled in there good. I tried a few different methods. I even used a 3 foot pipe on a C-Clamp and the thing wont budge. So instead of taking a chance and damaging the half shaft, I'm having the wife drop it off with the new u-joints to Corvette Connection in Bohemia, NY near my house to press them out and install the new ones. At $10 a press, its worth it. Then it Miller time.
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Old Jun 8, 2009 | 11:13 AM
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It usually is easier to have a shop do it, but if you try it again, just heat up the yoke and then use a socket to knock the ujoint out.
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Just for future reference....the two dissimilar metals seize over time.

Once you "move" the u-joint or "break the bond" Then it is easy.

Sorta like creating that "moment" of inertia. You have to break it loose with on single hefty whack...then it comes.

I'll make a film of it and post to u-tube as I have my left side Half shaft out doing repair on the D36......The Left Side Half Shaft is the last set of u-joints that are left for me to replace on this car.
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Originally Posted by jhammons01
Just for future reference....the two dissimilar metals seize over time.

Once you "move" the u-joint or "break the bond" Then it is easy.

Sorta like creating that "moment" of inertia. You have to break it loose with on single hefty whack...then it comes.

I'll make a film of it and post to u-tube as I have my left side Half shaft out doing repair on the D36......The Left Side Half Shaft is the last set of u-joints that are left for me to replace on this car.
good idea, we need more of this on youtube It would help alot if we could go research videos of projects that need to be done, I have seen a couple for c4's but very few, and just like belt replacement stuff.
great idea
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Originally Posted by jhammons01
Just for future reference....the two dissimilar metals seize over time.

Once you "move" the u-joint or "break the bond" Then it is easy.

Sorta like creating that "moment" of inertia. You have to break it loose with on single hefty whack...then it comes.

I'll make a film of it and post to u-tube as I have my left side Half shaft out doing repair on the D36......The Left Side Half Shaft is the last set of u-joints that are left for me to replace on this car.
It would be a great idea to post this on youtube.

I got the half shaft back yesterday (kudos to the guys at Corvette Connection) and installed it without a hitch. No more noises! YAY

Now that I know what to look forward to, I will budget time differently when I do the other side.

As always, you guys rule and I am always grateful for your help and insight.
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other side? do the drive shaft too, if they are the same age. I did mine at 100K, and they were all worn out
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
other side? do the drive shaft too, if they are the same age. I did mine at 100K, and they were all worn out
That's in the plan too. I will have that done what I get the rear end oil changed next month.
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You probably already know this but I wanted to toss this into the mix anyway...

Blue locktite on the strap bolts. (Those little 8mm guys)

And more blue locktite on the caliper mounting bracket's huge bolts. IIRC their torque setting is huge like in the 125 foot pounds. "took the whole knuckle off"
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:18 AM
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I recommend a press...remember, you are working with a part that has high rotational speed, and is made from a soft(er) metal. Don't go ape **** beating the u joint out of it, you may fubar the ends and / or the snap ring groove. The proper way to do the job is with an arbor press.
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Old Jun 10, 2009 | 11:29 AM
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Originally Posted by Driver84
I recommend a press...remember, you are working with a part that has high rotational speed, and is made from a soft(er) metal. Don't go ape **** beating the u joint out of it, you may fubar the ends and / or the snap ring groove. The proper way to do the job is with an arbor press.
Correct!

And more blue locktite on the caliper mounting bracket's huge bolts. IIRC their torque setting is huge like in the 125 foot pounds. "took the whole knuckle off"
70 ft lbs on the rear caliper mounting bolts. The control rods are 140.
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Originally Posted by Driver84
I recommend a press...remember, you are working with a part that has high rotational speed, and is made from a soft(er) metal. Don't go ape **** beating the u joint out of it, you may fubar the ends and / or the snap ring groove. The proper way to do the job is with an arbor press.
That's why I just dropped the half shaft off to get them out. $10 for each press was so worth it, not to mention, if they screwed it up, they owed me a half-shaft, if I screw it up, I'm SOL.

And yes, I did use blue loctite on the 8mm bolts, red on the caliper mounting bolts and control arm bolts (they recommend red for bolts over a certain size if you read the package). Everything was torqued to specs per my FSM. I will go under again after 100 miles and check torque on each.
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Originally Posted by M. Schumacher
Correct!
70 ft lbs on the rear caliper mounting bolts.

Originally Posted by ejscarfo
And yes, I did use... I will go under again after 100 miles and check torque on each.
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