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Old Jul 16, 2009 | 11:28 AM
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Offset is really hard to measure directly, but it's very easy to measure backspacing, from which you can calculate offset. Measure the distance from the inside of the lip of the rim to where the wheel mounts to the hub. This is your backspacing, 7.5" for example. To get offset, you subtract half of the width of the wheel from this number, 5.5" for example (for 11" wheels). This is your offset in inches. Just convert to mm, which is what offset is normally measured in, and you're done. 25.6 mm per inch, IIRC.
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I found that an 11" wheel with a 50 mm offset doesn't work real well with my 92 vert, not enough clearance between the inside of the rim and the bump stop and brake hose, if you put a tire on it the clearance would be rubbing in turns. The ZR1 (OEM for 92) rim with an offset of 36mm works. Thanks guys.
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I found that an 11" wheel with a 50 mm offset doesn't work real well with my 92 vert, not enough clearance between the inside of the rim and the bump stop and brake hose, if you put a tire on it the clearance would be rubbing in turns. The ZR1 (OEM for 92) rim with an offset of 36mm works. Thanks guys.
so 36 is better for front?
is that because yours came with thinner wheels in the front on yours, so the bump stops are different?

someday I want 315's on all corners
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so 36 is better for front?
is that because yours came with thinner wheels in the front on yours, so the bump stops are different?

someday I want 315's on all corners
I have 315s on all four corners on 17x11 wheels that have a 50mm offset. i have no issues at all.
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I have 315s on all four corners on 17x11 wheels that have a 50mm offset. i have no issues at all.
yeas we have 90's though, and they came with a little wider wheel than the later ones, so I thought maybe they set up the frontend a little different.
I thought the 36's were for zr1 or early c4's
I love your wheels, I can't wait to get some
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Originally Posted by StealthLT4
Offset is really hard to measure directly, but it's very easy to measure backspacing, from which you can calculate offset. Measure the distance from the inside of the lip of the rim to where the wheel mounts to the hub. This is your backspacing, 7.5" for example. To get offset, you subtract half of the width of the wheel from this number, 5.5" for example (for 11" wheels). This is your offset in inches. Just convert to mm, which is what offset is normally measured in, and you're done. 25.6 mm per inch, IIRC.
Not quite right!

When converting "back spacing" to offset you need to use "total wheel width" NOT advertised. It's generally accepted to use the "advertised" width + 1". The formula is sometimes related as:

[back spacing - (width +1) / (2) X 25.4 = offset]




example: 11" wheel 50 mm offset is very close to an 8" back spacing depending on "brand". Most of my 11" wheels are 11 7/8 - 11 15/16 in total width and the back spacing is 7 7/8 +.

Here's a simple calculation using "even" numbers reversing that:

8 - (12/2) X 25.4 = 50.8 mm [8 - 6 (2) X 25.4 = 50.8]

Substituting the actual measured width of the wheel your result would be much closer to the 50mm "advertised"!

Back spacing is most easily measured by placing a straight edge across the "back side" edge of a wheel with NO TIRE mounted and measuring from the mating surface of the hub to the straight edge.

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Play here: http://www.rims-n-tires.com/rt_specs.jsp
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Originally Posted by Blue 92
Yes! "BUT" you need to be able to put that to paper! Learn the math and use the tools! It's good for the "mind"!!!!!!!!


There's a big plus to using "your tools"! You can measure a "tire/wheel" combination that's mounted lying on the ground and confirm for yourself using simple math the fitment of that tire/wheel to your car if you've established the fit of a tire/wheel combination for starters! Some calculators are interesting and the one you refered to seems quite reliable to use for comparisons. Before reaching in "your pocket" it's good to "understand" a tire/wheel combination! It's NOT all in the wheel!!!!

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Originally Posted by WVZR-1
Yes! "BUT" you need to be able to put that to paper! Learn the math and use the tools! It's good for the "mind"!!!!!!!!

Some calculators are interesting and the one you refered to seems quite reliable to use for comparisons.
I agree that you need to understand the principles behind the numbers.

I like the site I listed because it makes it very easy to compare the existing wheel / tire setup and a new combination that's being considered. Makes it easy to visualize the differences.
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Originally Posted by Strick
I found that an 11" wheel with a 50 mm offset doesn't work real well with my 92 vert.... The ZR1 (OEM for 92) rim with an offset of 36mm works. Thanks guys.
I'm also using 36mm on the rear of my 89. No problems.

FYI: Anyone doing calculations to figure offset should realize you can have positive or negative offset. That is determined whether backspacing is greater or less than the wheel centerline.
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
I'm also using 36mm on the rear of my 89. No problems.

FYI: Anyone doing calculations to figure offset should realize you can have positive or negative offset. That is determined whether backspacing is greater or less than the wheel centerline.
I'd be interested in "snapshots" of yours and "Strick's" displaying the fitment of the 36mm 11" wheels on the rear of your conventional MY 88+ C4 rears!

Yes you certainly gain clearance on the inside of the wheel/tire to suspension/chassis but it seems you certainly pay a price with the wheel/tire that's 14mm extended "outboard" in regards to exterior body panels.
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