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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:00 PM
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I'm about 10 bolts away from having my '93 LT-1 rebuild finished and I just over torqued the two long bolts on the power stearing pump.

Short of pulling the whole engine out and putting in a helicoil does anyone have a better idea.

Elmer's Glue??
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:25 PM
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Get the pump & bracket out of the way, try to find a hardened left hand drill bit. You may get lucky & back the bolts out that way. If they don't back out drill your hole in bolt & use an EZout to get them. Work slowly & don't drill hole in block.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:30 PM
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Get the pump & bracket out of the way, try to find a hardened left hand drill bit. You may get lucky & back the bolts out that way. If they don't back out drill your hole in bolt & use an EZout to get them. Work slowly & don't drill hole in block.
I'm sorry, I must have use the wrong terms. I did not cross thread them, I stripped them. Now I cannot torque them, actually, I can't even tighten them. The threads inside the head are gone.

Thanks anyway.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:40 PM
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I just read about this alternative recently:

http://www.timesert.com/
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:42 PM
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Unless you can go to the next size larger, drill and tap, the only other recourse is heli coil.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 04:53 PM
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Yeah. I guess I'll have to try to use an insert like the Helicoil. I have no idea how I'll even get a drill in that space. Hopefully, a right-angle drill will have room.

AAAArrrrrrgggghhhhhh!!!!

Thanks to everybody for your responses.

Larry...
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 05:07 PM
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Piano guy is right. Timecert > helicoil.
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Old Aug 12, 2009 | 10:34 PM
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Not to hijack but do Timeserts come in standard sizes or only spark plug sizes?
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I once used the inserts on a Volkswagen engine for spark plug hole. Had to be drilled out, threaded and screwed in using red loctite. It wasn't hard but the head was off the motor and easy to get to. Loctite makes a product that's supposed to hold on stripped threads. I've never tried it and I don't know the name of it, but I've seen it in hardware stores. I looked on the Loctite web site and didn't see it there. Your best bet, nonetheless, is a heli-coil. Sometimes when we repair our own cars we have to take our medicine!
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I once used the inserts on a Volkswagen engine for spark plug hole. Had to be drilled out, threaded and screwed in using red loctite. It wasn't hard but the head was off the motor and easy to get to. Loctite makes a product that's supposed to hold on stripped threads. I've never tried it and I don't know the name of it, but I've seen it in hardware stores. I looked on the Loctite web site and didn't see it there. Your best bet, nonetheless, is a heli-coil. Sometimes when we repair our own cars we have to take our medicine!
I'd trust myself repairing my own car over some mechanic in a garage. In my opinion, no one will take the time and care to do things right better than me. Sure we all make mistakes and learn from them, but how many outside mechanics would make the mistake like the stripped threads and bolt everything back up and give the car back to the customer? With the tension of the belt, the pump would probably stay in place for a while.
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Originally Posted by pianoguy
I just read about this alternative recently:

http://www.timesert.com/
Sounds like you need to call the folks at Time-Sert. That looks like a good solution.
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Originally Posted by pianoguy
I just read about this alternative recently:

http://www.timesert.com/
I've not seen that before....interesting.
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I've not seen that before....interesting.
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Originally Posted by 383vett
I'd trust myself repairing my own car over some mechanic in a garage. In my opinion, no one will take the time and care to do things right better than me. Sure we all make mistakes and learn from them, but how many outside mechanics would make the mistake like the stripped threads and bolt everything back up and give the car back to the customer? With the tension of the belt, the pump would probably stay in place for a while.
Exactly, I won't even let Sears take my lugnuts off anymore because last time I did they crossed one lugnut & left it that way without even telling me. The nut wasn't even touching the wheel. In fact, once I got it off, I found only the first thread was damaged and was able to dremel off the first thread and didn't have to change the lug.

But the fact that they would do that and either not notice or not care enough to fix it is why I don't even trust them to put lugnuts on my car anymore.
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Originally Posted by pianoguy
I just read about this alternative recently:

http://www.timesert.com/
I've used them many times! They are without question the way to go and they make them in many sizes and lots of specialty applications too. Far superior to a Heli-Coil.
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Just watched all the vids.... those things are awesome!
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The trick was finding one in Atlanta in 8mm 1.25 thread.

The good news was that I found them. Now, I have to customize a drill bit to fit into that space. I have a right angle adapter for the drill, but the bit is too long. I think I can just shorten it enough to fit in the tight space between the engine and the radiator.

It's just a machine. One way or another, the car "will" see it my way.
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 09:05 PM
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If it is just the rad in your way, pull it. It is not as hard as it looks actually.
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Originally Posted by LBYRNES
I'm about 10 bolts away from having my '93 LT-1 rebuild finished and I just over torqued the two long bolts on the power stearing pump.

Short of pulling the whole engine out and putting in a helicoil does anyone have a better idea.

Elmer's Glue??
HI, I'm Billy Mays, Back from the grave for MIGHTY PUTTY...
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Old Aug 13, 2009 | 11:56 PM
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Originally Posted by JeepCycle
HI, I'm Billy Mays, Back from the grave for MIGHTY PUTTY...
And don't forget JB Weld if the op wants a permanent fix. The pump will be part of the head forever.
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