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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 05:06 AM
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I know it, another opti related question but I need advice on which one to get. I don't want the MSD so please don't mention it. The Accell is junk. I just can't decide whether to pay the 600.00 for the Dynaspark ot take a chance with the GM for about half that. I know a LS1 ignition system would be nice but I can't go there.

What would you guys do?
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 05:48 AM
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I am currently having issues with Dynaspark. I did buy mine remanufactured from them, so not sure if that means anything or not, but I'm not a happy customer with them at the moment. They seem to be trying to make it right, but my car has now been down for almost 2 weeks because of this.

My other choice was the MSD, why don't you like the MSD...just curious if there was something I didn't know.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 05:52 AM
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My other choice was the MSD, why don't you like the MSD...just curious if there was something I didn't know.
I've read of high RPM issues among other things. I swear, I think all of them have some kind of issue.
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I hope you get yours worked out.

I haven't read of to many problems with the dynaspark.
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I don't understand why so many people have problems with the optispark.I have a 94 vette and never had a optispark go bad on me.I did put in the vented optispark when i did a cam change.I would buy the GM optispark JMO. THANKS JEFF
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 08:22 AM
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Originally Posted by lt1396corvette
I don't understand why so many people have problems with the optispark.I have a 94 vette and never had a optispark go bad on me.I did put in the vented optispark when i did a cam change.I would buy the GM optispark JMO. THANKS JEFF

ditto

OEM opti installed several years ago along with an electric water pump so no anti freeze can leak on the opti.
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Is your current optispark vented?
If so then an OEM replacement will be fine.

Not vented like my 92 was - aftermarket Dynaspark. Caveat - I think I got one of the last ones from before the company was bought/sold last. Its been good, other folks have had issues since them. I'm not sure what happened to the company.
If I was spending my money on an opti today I would get an MSD, open it and fix the loose screws, re seal it, etc.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 10:58 AM
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Vented OEM OPTIs are reliable and the one on my vette handles jaunts to 6500+ rpm great....
if you have a 95 or 96 OEM opt .....If not......for the cost of the aftermakarket options if I had an early Lt1 I'd do a vented opti conversion

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Had problems with the old version on my 94 and replaced it with a vented (new) opti 3 years ago... no more issues
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Mine was replaced about 5 years ago with OEM after the water pump let loose. I had 40k on the car when it was replaced and have 60k on her now.
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Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like I'll give GM a go. Mine isn't bad I'm just replacing it in this cam swap process. The car is a '96. Thanks again!
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Originally Posted by Weav's Vet
Thanks for all the replies. Sounds like I'll give GM a go. Mine isn't bad I'm just replacing it in this cam swap process. The car is a '96. Thanks again!
Watch out for cheap chinese counterfeits, and shoddy rebuilt units...

I've had good luck with the partsladi however, looks like others haven't..

Just ensure you are buying from someone thats "licensed?" by GM to sell their parts and you should be good to go.


Here's a screen shot of 6800 rpm shift (on the street not dyno or track)
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 01:27 PM
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I know you said not to mention the MSD opti, but since you said yours is working fine... Have you seen what MSD calls a cap and rotor kit? It replaces pretty much everything plastic and all the high voltage contacts, but uses the original unit's metal and optical wheel/sensor. But the best part, if you have an early style like mine, is it comes with tubes and fittings to run to the intake duct and to tap into manifold vac to make it a vented unit. Since mine was working fine when I pulled the engine out, I decided to go that route and so far (2 months later) I'm happy with it. It spins to 6400 where my rev limiter is set without any problem. I'm still on a stock bottom end, so I don't want to go much higher than that.

For what it's worth, I'm curious what you've heard about high RPM issues with MSD. I've only heard of that with high mileage stock optis. I know of at least 3 engines (one Impala, one Caprice wagon, one Camaro) I have seen personally that spin past 6500 with the whole MSD opti without trouble.
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Dynacrap is no longer a supporting Vendor so, hopefully this post stays.

I've PM few of you and my experience with the Dynaspark was awful. It was the only thing I did to the Vette and there were detonation after detonation/ping/bang/you name it. I was about to deploy to Iraq, I did not have the time to remove it put it back in a box a get my money back so I got screwed BAD. I bought the MSD and all problems went away. Other members claim to be satisfied with it others including me were not so lucky.

I know soon or later somebody will invent a great replacement and affordable for us to upgrade from this nightmare.
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Originally Posted by reoch999
I know you said not to mention the MSD opti, but since you said yours is working fine... Have you seen what MSD calls a cap and rotor kit? It replaces pretty much everything plastic and all the high voltage contacts, but uses the original unit's metal and optical wheel/sensor. But the best part, if you have an early style like mine, is it comes with tubes and fittings to run to the intake duct and to tap into manifold vac to make it a vented unit. Since mine was working fine when I pulled the engine out, I decided to go that route and so far (2 months later) I'm happy with it. It spins to 6400 where my rev limiter is set without any problem. I'm still on a stock bottom end, so I don't want to go much higher than that.

For what it's worth, I'm curious what you've heard about high RPM issues with MSD. I've only heard of that with high mileage stock optis. I know of at least 3 engines (one Impala, one Caprice wagon, one Camaro) I have seen personally that spin past 6500 with the whole MSD opti without trouble.
Thanks reoch, almost two years ago right after I bought the car I had a mechanic replace the cap and rotor on the OE unit plus fix a bunch of oil leaks etc,etc. As far as I know the one that's in there is fine. I'm just trying to dodge some trouble down the road by replacing it while I'm in that far to the front of the engine. I'll check into the MSD cap and rotor. Do you know who is making the guts to the GM units now? It used to be Mitsubishi but I think they got out of it. The ones they made held up pretty good from what I've read.

Sorry I can't remember exactly where I read that about the misfire at high rpm. It had to be either here or LS1 or Gurus. I wonder though how many of these problems are installation related and not the units fault.
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Originally Posted by PLRX
Dynacrap is no longer a supporting Vendor so, hopefully this post stays.

I've PM few of you and my experience with the Dynaspark was awful. It was the only thing I did to the Vette and there were detonation after detonation/ping/bang/you name it. I was about to deploy to Iraq, I did not have the time to remove it put it back in a box a get my money back so I got screwed BAD. I bought the MSD and all problems went away. Other members claim to be satisfied with it others including me were not so lucky.

I know soon or later somebody will invent a great replacement and affordable for us to upgrade from this nightmare.
I didn't realize this Pete, thanks for the heads up!
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Originally Posted by aboatguy
Watch out for cheap chinese counterfeits, and shoddy rebuilt units...

I've had good luck with the partsladi however, looks like others haven't..

Just ensure you are buying from someone thats "licensed?" by GM to sell their parts and you should be good to go.
It's just about a crap shoot isn't it. Good idea about the license. I'll be sure to check that out.
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Originally Posted by PLRX
I know soon or later somebody will invent a great replacement and affordable for us to upgrade from this nightmare.
Seems like the opti experiece is all over the place. A little while back, there was a poll on the MSD opti,

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...opti-poll.html

73% said no problems, the rest were about split between minor and major problems. I think many looked at the Dynaspark and then the MSD as that great replacement opti, but I don't think either has convinced me that they are better than stock, at least better than the stock later vented units.

When I replaced mine (only because I was doing the water pump) I went with a stock unit, if I had an earlier car, it would have been a tougher decision. One thing that I wish I did would have been to put a hose in the weep hole on the water pump and run it to a small container that I could check periodically. I think that coolant and opti bearings are a bad mix.

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I have had my fair share of Optis issues, Dynaspark and OEM GM. Problems were with, IMHO install. When a new cam, the dowel pin length may be different and gasket thickness cause the Opti to not line up properly. Dynaspark was very clear on install instructions.
Lesson learned, be **** about the install, go 95 and newer and by OEM.
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Old Sep 4, 2009 | 08:28 PM
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GM on mine and no issues, I have never had an MSD anything work for very long. Probably great stuff just not for me
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