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Old Oct 26, 2009 | 10:16 PM
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Can you dis-able, the F45 selective ride control system on late C4's and go with normal shocks? (Bilstein's of course)

Or, will it set a "code" in the computer?
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 12:21 AM
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Can you dis-able, the F45 selective ride control system on late C4's and go with normal shocks? (Bilstein's of course)

Or, will it set a "code" in the computer?
I know on some cars doing this(disabling) may cause speed limiter to "kick" in to as low as 80mph.This may happen to your car since it is OBDII(1996 or newer).I would bit the bullet & repair system so everything is working correctly.I have FX3 & enjoy it.The FX3 is similar to F45 but you have the more advanced system & I would "assume" that your(F45) system is more reliable than FX3 setup.Yes disabling will set a code/light but bulb can be removed(not recommended).
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 02:26 AM
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I pulled my shocks and all the sensors. Just pull the bulb for the Service Ride Control light and you'll be fine. No codes (except in the RTD computer ), no performance limiters (including ABS, ASR, general performance, etc).

I'm assuming you're going to use the car for auto-x or road course. Koni adjustables are a nice shock. I use them as well. F45 was a nice idea in '96, just didn't work very well even when new (too little range).
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F45 like fx3 workbgreat with z51 or z07 cars.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 05:33 AM
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Mine started as a low miler with fx3 working properly. I removed the fx3 and the leaf and replaced with qa-1's coilovers. The car never felt/rode better in it's life, not to mention I can set ride height and shocks the way I want.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
I'm assuming you're going to use the car for auto-x or road course.
Yes Jim, that's it. I am looking at an LT4 for a 2nd Vette and it has the F45 system, my current 1996 does not. I probably would perfer to be able to run what shocks I want , and springs, ect..,

I would certianly try the existing system first, to see how I like it.

Thanks!
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by NASCAR314
Yes Jim, that's it. I am looking at an LT4 for a 2nd Vette and it has the F45 system, my current 1996 does not. I probably would perfer to be able to run what shocks I want , and springs, ect..,

I would certianly try the existing system first, to see how I like it.

Thanks!
I installed '90 Z51 springs and sway bars in mine, in addition to the Koni shocks, Global West aluminum bushings in the upper and lower a-arms, poly for the dog bones and sway bar mounts, etc. Does pretty well.

If I was starting from square 1, I'd go buy a C5. Cheaper in the long run and it's just a better chassis overall vs the C4, especially on road courses.
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I spoke with Randy at DRM about shock options for my car. He said the FX3 is not that great. You are better off with a non-adjustable Bilstein valved properly than the FX3. Give Randy a call hes a good guy. They also have coilovers if you decide to go that route.
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[quote=96GS#007;1571954230]I installed '90 Z51 springs and sway bars in mine, in addition to the Koni shocks, Global West aluminum bushings in the upper and lower a-arms, poly for the dog bones and sway bar mounts, etc. Does pretty well.
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This sounds like the setup I am building, '90 Z51 springs, aluminum bushings, VB&P bars, Banski rear end kit, DRM valved Bilsteins.
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
If I was starting from square 1, I'd go buy a C5. Cheaper in the long run and it's just a better chassis overall vs the C4, especially on road courses.
I do 95% low speed autocrosses, and my experience shows a C4 is more than capable of keeping up with the C5's in those type of events.

My 96 vert. has a 90 front spring and an 84 rear spring, poly bushings, stiff Bilstien's in front and QA1 adjustables in rear. stock LT1 motor.

But, that said, a C5 is not out of the question.
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Old Oct 27, 2009 | 02:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Kubs
I spoke with Randy at DRM about shock options for my car. He said the FX3 is not that great. You are better off with a non-adjustable Bilstein valved properly than the FX3. Give Randy a call hes a good guy. They also have coilovers if you decide to go that route.
I did not think anything special of fx3 but an expensive problem to fix.
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
I pulled my shocks and all the sensors. Just pull the bulb for the Service Ride Control light and you'll be fine. No codes (except in the RTD computer ), no performance limiters (including ABS, ASR, general performance, etc).

I'm assuming you're going to use the car for auto-x or road course. Koni adjustables are a nice shock. I use them as well. F45 was a nice idea in '96, just didn't work very well even when new (too little range).
Thanks for clearing that up
I have read on some vehicles the limiter will kick in but can't remember the year & make.I agree if you want to race the car their are better suspension "set-ups" avalible.I just think its cool having remote adjustable suspension but it is very expensive to fix
I sure the newer(2010 zr-1) you would notice a difference in settings/range(I'm assuming) compared to a older FX3 equipped corvette.Plus look how good it(2010 zr-1) handles with adjustable suspension but that is about 15 years worth of improvements(FX3,F45,F55).
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While doing a search on the FX3 and F45 systems, I have a question after reading some of this information. I have a 1996 LT1. It was built in June 1996. How can I tell if it has the F45 system since NASCAR314 mentioned that his 1996 did not have the F45?

While driving, turning the **** to any of the 3 positions for Tour, Sport, and Perf, I really don't notice any difference in the feel of the car. The manual says, "you may have a ride control system in your Corvette called Real Time Damping (RTD)..."

So how do I know what I have?
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Originally Posted by Wathen1955
While doing a search on the FX3 and F45 systems, I have a question after reading some of this information. I have a 1996 LT1. It was built in June 1996. How can I tell if it has the F45 system since NASCAR314 mentioned that his 1996 did not have the F45?

While driving, turning the **** to any of the 3 positions for Tour, Sport, and Perf, I really don't notice any difference in the feel of the car. The manual says, "you may have a ride control system in your Corvette called Real Time Damping (RTD)..."

So how do I know what I have?
F45 Selective Realtime Dampening replaced the FX3 Selective Ride Control system in 1996. If you have the 3-position console ****, you have F45. There were 2,896 '96 cars that got F45; it was a $1700 option.
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Originally Posted by c4cruiser
F45 Selective Realtime Dampening replaced the FX3 Selective Ride Control system in 1996. If you have the 3-position console ****, you have F45. There were 2,896 '96 cars that got F45; it was a $1700 option.
Thanks for the info.
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