Got a Scanner - Need Some Help
I got an Autoxray as well and mine does not work with the 85 ecm.
Its a lot of meaningless numbers displayed as in you listing. which made me not trust the numbers. The scanner works fine with the ...165 ecm from 86 and up.
I got a free sw for the laptop I have and its called Winaldl.Googgle that and you can download it and see the differences.
You must then have a cable which is shown how to make or where to buy.The Winaldl values made sence and I have used it for tuing and it made sence.
see that:
-AIR motor could be a little less counts but is not wrong
-the coolant temp is low
-Engine rpm is correct as the scanner increases the rpm to 1000rpm
-EGR data I believe is not displayed in the datastream
-TPS is OK
-Integrator is low should be 128
-BLM is far out of capture area and is supposed tp be around 128 ideally but is within capture range from 110 till about 155 (cannot remember exactly)But with a figuere of 179 that makes no sence and show that the engine extremely lean.
-With a cooling temp of 167.9 degr. it makes no sence that the airtemp or manifold temp should be 203 degrees
-Oxygen sensor shall cycle or alternate around 450 mV from just some mV till up to the value you have it might be that the scaner sampled the high value and that it works all right
-Knock sensor of 112 knocks sounds bad and I believe that it is not true if the engine ignition is adjusted to 6degrees BTP
-MAF is if I remember correctly within normal and so is injector pulse
- Rich/lean flag is wrong as the BLM show extremely lean engine.
You can see on the instrument panel if the engine is lean or rich.
If you shortcircuit pin A and B in the aldl connector the service engine soon light will start blinking. If the dutycycle on/ off is equal length it is quite normal. if the on period is longer than the off period the engine is (here you should read in the manual to see what is correct because I don't remmber exactly) but think it is rich.
Good luck
Idle Air Mtr Pos: 47 Steps
Coolant Temp: 167.9 deg F
Vehicle Speed: 0 MPH
EGR Duty Cycle: 0.0%
Engine RPM: 1000
Throttle Sensor: 0.56 Volts
Integrator: 124
Oxygen Sensor: 836 mVolts
Manifold Air Temp: 203.0 Deg F
Knock Sensor: 112
Block Learn: 179
O2 Cross Counts: 0
Mass Air Flow: 8 Gr/Sec
Injector Pulse: 1.3 mS
Learn Control: Enabled
Rich/Lean Flag: Rich
Loop Status: Open
Park/Neutral: Detected
Power Steering PSI High: No
EGR: Off
Fan #1: Off
A/C: Requested
Prom ID: 7805
I noted a few things.
Manifold Air Temp never changed. It read 203.0 at startup with engine cold. Scanner indicated A/C was requested. The A/C was off. Computer never went to closed loop. Chip is programmed for 800 RPM idle target. Actual idle was 1000. Idle increased when scanner was in scan mode.
I got an Autoxray as well and mine does not work with the 85 ecm.
Its a lot of meaningless numbers displayed as in you listing. which made me not trust the numbers. The scanner works fine with the ...165 ecm from 86 and up.
I got a free sw for the laptop I have and its called Winaldl.Googgle that and you can download it and see the differences.
You must then have a cable which is shown how to make or where to buy.The Winaldl values made sence and I have used it for tuing and it made sence.
see that:
-AIR motor could be a little less counts but is not wrong
-the coolant temp is low
-Engine rpm is correct as the scanner increases the rpm to 1000rpm
-EGR data I believe is not displayed in the datastream
-TPS is OK
-Integrator is low should be 128
-BLM is far out of capture area and is supposed tp be around 128 ideally but is within capture range from 110 till about 155 (cannot remember exactly)But with a figuere of 179 that makes no sence and show that the engine extremely lean.
-With a cooling temp of 167.9 degr. it makes no sence that the airtemp or manifold temp should be 203 degrees
-Oxygen sensor shall cycle or alternate around 450 mV from just some mV till up to the value you have it might be that the scaner sampled the high value and that it works all right
-Knock sensor of 112 knocks sounds bad and I believe that it is not true if the engine ignition is adjusted to 6degrees BTP
-MAF is if I remember correctly within normal and so is injector pulse
- Rich/lean flag is wrong as the BLM show extremely lean engine.
You can see on the instrument panel if the engine is lean or rich.
If you shortcircuit pin A and B in the aldl connector the service engine soon light will start blinking. If the dutycycle on/ off is equal length it is quite normal. if the on period is longer than the off period the engine is (here you should read in the manual to see what is correct because I don't remmber exactly) but think it is rich.
Good luck
Last edited by SunCr; Nov 14, 2009 at 12:49 PM.
I've downloaded the WinALDL software which is compatible with my ECM and I ordered a cable for my laptop. I should be able to do some dynamic data logging in a few days. I got a great book on Corvette fuel injection so I'm getting just smart enough to be dangerous. I understand now why a BLM reading of 179 is dangerously lean. That would indicate some serious long term fuel trim changes are being made.
Thanks guys!
I replaced the TPS this morning. I was pretty certain it was getting tired. The idle is improved and shifts are smoother.
Would make me think it was the O2 counts just under the wrong label on the scanner... It goes 0-255 and starts over..
I still do not understand how the TPS can effect shifting. Someone needs to explain this to me with a 700R4. There are only 6 connections between anything else and the trans.. Crank to converter, TC Lockup wiring, shift cable, TV cable and speed sensor for the ECM and dash.. I thought shifting was controlled by the TV cable and governor..
Would make me think it was the O2 counts just under the wrong label on the scanner... It goes 0-255 and starts over..
I still do not understand how the TPS can effect shifting. Someone needs to explain this to me with a 700R4. There are only 6 connections between anything else and the trans.. Crank to converter, TC Lockup wiring, shift cable, TV cable and speed sensor for the ECM and dash.. I thought shifting was controlled by the TV cable and governor..
Thanks Dave
I was able to adjust the IAC although I'm not sure what the counts should be. I set it at 30 counts. Idle is very close to the target idle of 800 RPM. So I guess that's good.
For anyone looking for a scanner capability for the 85 ECM, this is a pretty good deal. I may look into more sophisticated software now that I know this works.
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If using a 727/730 ecm you can tune open loop at idle/off idle and have it enter closed loop at any rpm above. The V4 AUJP bin (727/730) for example has tables to allow this type of tuning.
Last edited by mseven; Nov 21, 2009 at 03:52 PM.









