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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 12:20 PM
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Guys, I am in the process of pulling my engine, 92 LT-1 and had a h3ll of a time removing the EGR tubes that go to the headers, I had to cut one off. this got me thinking why should I even put this stuff back on? I live in IN. and they don't test emmisions. I would like your thoughts on this PROS/CONS. I did hear I have to take a code out of the computer so it doesn't trip. I m not sure about the rest THANKS!
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Guys, I am in the process of pulling my engine, 92 LT-1 and had a h3ll of a time removing the EGR tubes that go to the headers, I had to cut one off. this got me thinking why should I even put this stuff back on? I live in IN. and they don't test emmisions. I would like your thoughts on this PROS/CONS. I did hear I have to take a code out of the computer so it doesn't trip. I m not sure about the rest THANKS!
Those are not EGR tubes. They are AIR tubes....Air Injection Reaction tubes for the secondary AIR system.

Other than cleaning up the engine bay a bit, you will see no gain in the way of performance, etc. Not sure why you removed them prior to pulling the engine. The engine comes out as an assembly, fully dressed....



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Old Nov 8, 2009 | 12:42 PM
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If you cut one of the tubes, it's gone now. I'd buy a set of plugs and block off plates and do without it. I left the vacuum switch for the AIR pump intact so the system still 'thinks' it's all there and throws no SES or codes.

In the meantime, you can hunt down a replacement tube for the one you cut and have it for resale. JMO
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 08:14 AM
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what all does this sysytem do?
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 09:05 AM
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what all does this sysytem do?
Feeds air int the exhaust. Helps it pass emissions.
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Those are not EGR tubes. They are AIR tubes....Air Injection Reaction tubes for the secondary AIR system.

Pass side is AIR + EGR.
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Originally Posted by 89onlyZ51
Pass side is AIR + EGR.
Take a better look...the EGR is blocked off, only the AIR is present.
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Originally Posted by 89onlyZ51
Pass side is AIR + EGR.
Passenger side is AIR only.
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Old Nov 9, 2009 | 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Passenger side is AIR only.
Correct. I was simply pointing out that on your intake, the EGR has been blocked off.
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[QUOTE=C4vettrn;1572081028]Guys, I am in the process of pulling my engine, 92 LT-1 and had a h3ll of a time removing the EGR tubes that go to the headers, I had to cut one off. this got me thinking why should I even put this stuff back on? I live in IN. and they don't test emmisions. I would like your thoughts on this PROS/CONS. I did hear I have to take a code out of the computer so it doesn't trip. I m not sure about the rest THANKS![/QUOte

I would delete out your egr and air tubes
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
Passenger side is AIR only.
On his, not yours. Do LT1 heads have egr passages built-in like the old iron head Gen1's?
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What are the pros/cons if any? What changes need done to the computer?If the air tubes put clean air in the exhaust dose the EGR put exhaust gas in the intake? Deleting the EDR would probably gain a few HP wouldn't it?
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opening a can of worms
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The AIR system pumps hot air to the cat converter to get it up to temperature faster for less emissions, you don't need it if there is no state inspection but it should be eliminated from your chip. The EGR recirculates exhaust back into the combustion chambers to lower emissions but also lowers temperatures by as much as 500 degrees. Without the EGR there is a good chance that you will have engine ping that will be very hard to get rid of..I always advise keeping the EGR system intact if at all possible. There is no performance gain by eliminating the EGR system,if you do eliminate the EGR it should also be programmed out of the chip so it won't set a code....WW
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The AIR system pumps hot air to the cat converter to get it up to temperature faster for less emissions, you don't need it if there is no state inspection but it should be eliminated from your chip. The EGR recirculates exhaust back into the combustion chambers to lower emissions but also lowers temperatures by as much as 500 degrees. Without the EGR there is a good chance that you will have engine ping that will be very hard to get rid of..I always advise keeping the EGR system intact if at all possible. There is no performance gain by eliminating the EGR system,if you do eliminate the EGR it should also be programmed out of the chip so it won't set a code....WW
If you delete EGR, turn it off in the chip, too. Not just to avoid the trouble code, but it will solve the pinging problem that others mention, too. While EGR is active, the computer advances timing since combustion temps are lower with the exhaust-diluted mixture. Take away the exhaust-dilution but not the timing, and that's where the pinging comes from.
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Thats the kind of info I was looking for thanks! Oh does anyone have a passenger side tube for sale?:o Or know of someone who might?
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