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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 08:53 PM
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a Yuh.
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:08 PM
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Originally Posted by RocketSled
a Yuh.
@#%$.



Here we go again...
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:16 PM
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Practice makes perfect. (I suspect you already knew the answer, you just wanted confirmation.)
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Old Jan 19, 2010 | 09:49 PM
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Pretty much.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 07:47 AM
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If you are able to get your booster out without removing your MC, then you are a better man than I. I friggin' hated that job because I had to bleed the brake system, and yes, my back was feeling pain for days......

Sounds like the time I replaced that damn Bose CDM/tuner module in my '92 coupe. It's on the passenger side of the car under the dash and is another royal PITA to replace, too.
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 10:09 AM
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I have never tried this booster vacuum trick, but I would think that the check valve on your booster would prohibit you from measureing vacumm. Each time as you stop pumping the "bleeder", the check valve will close, and your gauge will read 0Hg.

I am guessing, but I think the only way this type of test could be conclusive is if you remove the check valve......
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 11:11 AM
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How do you check the check valve to see if it is working? After I shut down my 89. I can get a good 2-3 pumps on the brake pedal. So, I'm guessing that means the check valve is good?
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Old Jan 20, 2010 | 01:00 PM
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Checkvalves are simply one way devices - you can only blow/suck one way - if you can do it both ways, it's no good; but check the gasket/washer too.
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Old Jan 21, 2010 | 02:18 AM
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Originally Posted by SunCr
Checkvalves are simply one way devices - you can only blow/suck one way - if you can do it both ways, it's no good; but check the gasket/washer too.
That sounds easy enough. It looks like you should be able to suck air on the check valve, but not be able to blow air. I just noticed the booster on my 89 is original.
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 09:16 AM
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I hope I'm not hijacking your thread, I'm just wondering how those of you that have replaced your booster dealt with the diagonal running crossmember in front of the booster.

On my 1992, there is 1/4" clearance at best between the square tube and the lower left portion of the booster . I've seen a really good photo breakdown from a young man that recently replaced his, but he made no mention of this downtube.

Also, I bought a replacement booster from Autozone, part number 54-71405, has anyone else used this one?
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Old Jan 22, 2010 | 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Al Borman
Anyway, when I installed a booster in my '93, I went ahead and spent the extra $$ on a new OEM Delco booster, because I did not want to have to do this anytime soon. New ones are going for about $265 from "thepartsladi" on fleabay. If that booster is toast, that would really suck. I think O'Reilly uses A1 Cardone for all their reman'ed stuff, FWIW
That's what I did when I replaced mine. That is one job I didn't even want to do once much less twice.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by rwsduc
I hope I'm not hijacking your thread, I'm just wondering how those of you that have replaced your booster dealt with the diagonal running crossmember in front of the booster.

On my 1992, there is 1/4" clearance at best between the square tube and the lower left portion of the booster . I've seen a really good photo breakdown from a young man that recently replaced his, but he made no mention of this downtube.

Also, I bought a replacement booster from Autozone, part number 54-71405, has anyone else used this one?
I unhooked the piece you speak of, but I didn't take it out. I think there were 2 bolts holding it to the hood latch bracket and three bolts (two vertical and one horizontal) holding it to the frame.

Once you get the booster loose from the firewall the bottom of the booster will actually tip upward and out.

What I did in the engine bay (not necessarily in this order, but close, I think):

1. Removed ECM and bracket
2. Removed cruise control servo/bracket
3. Loosened diagonal support bar
4. Unmounted ASR unit
5. Disconnected MC from booster

Once you remove the two nuts from the booster from inside the cabin, you can move the ASR unit out of the way, pull the MC toward where the ASR unit was, and then pull the booster out.

Hope this helps.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 05:17 AM
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Auto zone or kraggen, and others, will sell you a well pricer, used, rebuilt one for less than an new one, the brand is the al-cardon same model number that you mentioned. They will even give you a liftime warranty, but unfortunatly who wants to change a booster, more than once. Same happend to me,the first one hissed, then went bad in one month, then the thing wasn't preset correctly. I changed it 3 times!!! My friend your problem is the used rebuilt. Get the metal ones, they accutally work better for same price. Or you can get a new one for about 269 or more. the plastic cheap ones go bad in hot weather too, all under same liftime warranty!!!. Lets face it the manufacturer new what they were doing, people that rebuild, for this brand really don't!!!
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 10:03 AM
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Originally Posted by 777 eddie
Auto zone or kraggen, and others, will sell you a well pricer, used, rebuilt one for less than an new one, the brand is the al-cardon same model number that you mentioned. They will even give you a liftime warranty, but unfortunatly who wants to change a booster, more than once. Same happend to me,the first one hissed, then went bad in one month, then the thing wasn't preset correctly. I changed it 3 times!!! My friend your problem is the used rebuilt. Get the metal ones, they accutally work better for same price. Or you can get a new one for about 269 or more. the plastic cheap ones go bad in hot weather too, all under same liftime warranty!!!. Lets face it the manufacturer new what they were doing, people that rebuild, for this brand really don't!!!
Funny thing is: Brake boosters are SIMPLE beasts. It's a big rubber diaphragm, a spring, and a one-way valve. If the case isn't cracked, then the problem is usually that rubber diaphragm.

Rebuild kits used to be $30 or so, and the spring that actuates everything requires about 20 lbs of force to work with. So repairing a booster is: Rotate the front face from the back face while applying 20# force, separate the two halves, remove diaphragm, replace with new, reassemble, swap one way valve.

If you can contain it from popping apart, and get it back together, It's a 1 repair on the scale from 1 to 10.
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Old Jan 23, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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The one I put in today appears to be working - y'all keep your fingers crossed
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