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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 02:36 AM
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What kind of numbers, HP and TQ, can you get from a ZZ9 Cam on a 1987 L98?

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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 03:46 AM
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Though '87 heads differ, you've got mail on results with a '90 L98.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 10:18 AM
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Though '87 heads differ, you've got mail on results with a '90 L98.
Aww heck, post the responses here! I've got a 'modified' ZZ9 in this nifty carrying case http://millerville.cc/images/NewMotor%20005.jpg, and want to hear what other folks are getting...

Mine's 'officially' 450+/490 ft-lbs, but we're hopeing for 465hp...with Hooker headers out the back, Superram up front, and 383 in the middle.




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L98Terror runs the ZZ9 in his 12.1 second L98. He also has the superram setup going on his. :) Anyways. He has never dyno'd over 300rwhp, but they key is that it makes juuust shy of 300 across the entire band. :) She just pulls pulls pulls forever.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 01:20 PM
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L98Terror runs the ZZ9 in his 12.1 second L98. He also has the superram setup going on his. :) Anyways. He has never dyno'd over 300rwhp, but they key is that it makes juuust shy of 300 across the entire band. :) She just pulls pulls pulls forever.
I've seen other L98's, even modded TPI's use the ZZ9 with good success - but I can't see how? The cam was designed for the higher reving Miniram intake, not a TPI. You would think the car would run out of steam right when the cam hits its peak. This kind of thing makes it very difficult to decide what parts to use in making modifications. :confused:

Anyone have the answer why this cam is better than a 211, or 219 for a TPI/Superram car? I'd like to know.
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 01:21 PM
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Anyone have the answer why this cam is better than a 211, or 219 for a TPI/Superram car? I'd like to know.
I didn't say it was better, just that he happens to have it. :)
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Old Mar 6, 2002 | 01:35 PM
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Anyone have the answer why this cam is better than a 211, or 219 for a TPI/Superram car? I'd like to know.
Its not really any better, but its not worse either. The zz9 likes higher revs, if your tpi is modified to flow enough air at those revs, then its all good. It was only designed to run with the MR, thats all, it doesnt mean it cant run with it. It just has different cam specs and does different things than the 219/SR combo.
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Thanks! So I guess what you are saying, is the ZZ9 will sacrifice low, and mid range torque (which you may not need anyway) for additional HP up high. All depends on personal preference. Sounds reasonable. :)

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Thanks! So I guess what you are saying, is the ZZ9 will sacrifice low, and mid range torque (which you may not need anyway) for additional HP up high. All depends on personal preference. Sounds reasonable. :)

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Well, if you do something else to compensate for the low and midrange losses (like, say, more displacement :yesnod: ) then it's All good.

This is a proven combination the motor builder's been making for years. The 219 was my second choice, but since he's done this one and dynoed it, I'll trust him.
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I have a 90 vert L98 with 2.73's (going to 3.54's). I have looked on the internet a lot, @ what is the best cam for my car. I'm starting to get pissy about not being able to make a choice, that I will be happy with, cause of the different facts and opinions of guys on the the L98. I find it hard to believe that if the 219 was to excessive, that LPE would sell it for the L98. The 211 & 219 cam on the LPE website, says that both of those cam will work great with the rpm range on the TPI intake. Meaning stock i think, so it must work better with any aftermarket intake, TPI or LT1 style. I have Edelbrock LTR's so I think that more bottom and mid is what I want cause, even with aftermarket base plate runners & eventually ported heads, I doubt I will ever see 6k rpms, with my TPI intake. I think the 219 cam is the right choice for TPI with LTR's. I'm still a rookie on the forums, so please don't take anything I said personal.
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Old Jan 16, 2011 | 10:46 PM
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219 will work with the ltr intake but better with the superram thats what it was designed for. LTR most go a little smaller, cant cam these up like a carb'd motor. I mean you can but you may not get what youre looking for.
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over camming a LTR set up will lose torque, and make no more top end hp.
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Its 2002 again.
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Wow, this is a old thread.
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Thanks for the positive input: cuisinartvette & tpi 421 vette. So the 211 would be better choice than the 219, for the LTR tpi intake?

Lets try to keep post somewhat educational guys, the admins want it like that... Don't G.A.S. if the post is 100 years old...
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The cams you are thinking about using, the 211 LPE cam was designed for the LTR set up.
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Had the ZZ9 in my 350 LT1. Dyno'd 302RWHP/328RWTQ with Power Effects exhaust. With TPIS ported LT1 heads 1.6 RR's and headers added, dyno'd at 370RWHP/360RWTQ. Ran 11.9's at 116-118MPH

Most guys had the Hot Cam in 2002. No regrets with the ZZ9.
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I thought I would post my results.
I installed stock 113 heads, TPIS ZZ9 cam, TPIS Big Mouth intake, AS&M semi-siamised runners, Comp Cams 1.5 Pro Magnum roller rockers, SVO 24lb flow matched injectors, March aluminum under drive pulleys and true dual 2 1/2" exhaust off factory manifolds with Flowmaster mufflers and no cats, and a chip by ski-down-it (Jessie).
I dynoed the car at a local shop and it put down 254.3 HP and 331.7 torque and my best 1/8 mile time (only local track) was 8.471 @ 83.98 mph with a 2.044 60' time and a 5.581 330' time on Kumho ECSTA street tires back on 2-26-05, last time I ran at the track.
I thought it would make more power and go a little quicker but that is what I got.
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Originally Posted by silverdroptop
I thought I would post my results.
I installed stock 113 heads, TPIS ZZ9 cam, TPIS Big Mouth intake, AS&M semi-siamised runners, Comp Cams 1.5 Pro Magnum roller rockers, SVO 24lb flow matched injectors, March aluminum under drive pulleys and true dual 2 1/2" exhaust off factory manifolds with Flowmaster mufflers and no cats, and a chip by ski-down-it (Jessie).
I dynoed the car at a local shop and it put down 254.3 HP and 331.7 torque and my best 1/8 mile time (only local track) was 8.471 @ 83.98 mph with a 2.044 60' time and a 5.581 330' time on Kumho ECSTA street tires back on 2-26-05, last time I ran at the track.
I thought it would make more power and go a little quicker but that is what I got.
If your exhaust is a true dual without an x pipe, I bet you could pick up some power if you did add an x pipe. I tried the true dual set up once for one autox event and changed back to original configuration. The spool up time was a lot slower with the true dual set up.
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