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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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I have a 1985 L98 from a Corvette. It has been swapped to Speed Density, running the '730 ECU and a TPI chip from Larry's Electronics. I recently had some issues where the engine wouldn't idle and through trouble shooting have found that it's running very rich. The engine is currently in my Jeep after sitting for a couple years well protected in my garage. As far as I know, the engine is all stock.

The plugs are all fouled. The exhaust smells like gas and most recently, I was getting black smoke on startup.

After letting the engine warm up and hooking it up to TunerPro at idle I get the following info:

Throttle Position - .78
TPS % - 0
Coolant Temp - 87.5* C
Startup Coolant Temp - 20.75* C
Battery Voltage - 13.7 V
Fuel Pump Voltage - 13.5 V
Vehicle Speed - 0 MPH
Engine Speed - 700 RPM
Map Volts - 1.6 V
Map kPa - 40.24 kPa
Manifold Air Temp - 65.24* C

Target AFR - 14.73
O2 Sensor - Sweeping up and down
Integrator - 129
BLM - 156 (read as high was 160, as low as 144)
Block Learn Cell - 4 (this changes while driving)
Injector Pulse Width - 2.55 ms

I ohmed out all the injectors with them all ranging from 23 - 29 and one at 42. From what I've read that is pretty high.

The opinion I've gotten from a few people is that I've got leaking injectors. I pressured the system, clamped off the fuel and return lines and it does leak down to around 10 psi in 15-20 minutes. I used a thermometer to measure the exhaust manifold at each cylinder and there weren't any huge differences.

Does anyone have any insight? Does this sound like bad injectors?
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 07:24 PM
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The fuel pressure shouldn't drop below 30 psi even overnight.
Make sure the map senser is hooked up to manifold vacuum, not ported vacuum. Hook a vacuum gauge up to it, should be over 17 inches at idle, smooth needle. Check all grounds, I've seen GMs act funny w/ poor grounds. Olhm the coolant temp. senser too, & double check your ign. timing, make sure it advances when you rev it. Good luck.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 08:59 PM
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MAP sensor is hooked to manifold vacuum. The engine is making about 18 inches of vacuum at idle.

I'll ohm out the coolant sensor if I can find out what it should be. The grounds should all be good, I just put this thing together and the harness is grounded at the same spot I grounded the batter to on the block.

It's running fine (except for a day), just rich.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 09:22 PM
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tps reading of .78 at idle? Too high my friend, get it down to .54. It may not completly solve your problem, but it will help.
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Google "GM engine coolant senser resistance" I found a chart right away.
90*C or 212*F = 241 ohms
10*C or 59*F = 5670 ohms
Thats basic room temp & fully warmed up values.
Vacuum is very good, I'd check fuel pressure, maybe an adjustable fuel press. regulator was installed, make sure the return line is unrestricted.
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Old Feb 18, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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injectors should ohm out around 16...they're all high. Jon @ FIC will help you out
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