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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:04 PM
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The car just started this recently. When I first crank for the day sometimes it fires and then quits. Sometimes it keeps running and runs fine. If it does quit then when I go to start it again it floods and then sometimes it will fire up and run but today it isn't running. I can disconnect the fuel pump and it will finally fire and run the gas out of the fuel rails and then of course stop. I hook the FP back up and it will not fire back up for anything. I've tried three different fuel regulators and it makes no difference. I have 30lb FMS injectors on the car. Is it possible they are to much for the stock heads? Is there an adjustment for the injectors in the tune that may be off?
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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30# seems excessive, as stock 24's will take you to 400.

Did you check the ohm's on the injectors and put a noid on them?

Did you check fuel pressure while cranking?

Did you change the pump to match the new injectors?
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:20 PM
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Do you have a fuel pressure gauge hooked up? What's it reading when running, & does it hold pressure when the engine is off. You may have to check the resistence of the coolant temp senser(it changes w/ temp). 30lbs. injectors sounds big to me, I think when you choose injectors you gotta be honest about your build. Just don't go by what the tech guy said, double check at other sources like here.
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30# seems excessive, as stock 24's will take you to 400.

Did you check the ohm's on the injectors and put a noid on them?

Did you check fuel pressure while cranking?

Did you change the pump to match the new injectors?

I didn't test fuel pressure but I can. I figured it had plenty since it was flooding and with three different regulators I didn't thin it could be excessive. I can check it though in a few.

The fuel pump is a new Racetronix Walbro.

I have a noid light and can check that also.
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Old Mar 28, 2010 | 04:27 PM
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Do you have a fuel pressure gauge hooked up? What's it reading when running, & does it hold pressure when the engine is off. You may have to check the resistence of the coolant temp senser(it changes w/ temp). 30lbs. injectors sounds big to me, I think when you choose injectors you gotta be honest about your build. Just don't go by what the tech guy said, double check at other sources like here.
It will not hold fuel pressure very long, maybe 20 minutes before it starts dropping very slowly. The injectors are new and are not leaking. I can't find any leaks whatsoever.

The injectors were doing fine until all of this started not long ago. It was my tunes recommendation to move up from the 24's I had on the car.

Is it possible that the spark just isn't hot enough? The plugs are NGKTR55IX gaped at .050
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Mike - are you still using the factory heads unported with factory valves?

I have the same 30# FMS injectors with no problems thus far over the past couple years. Lots of people told me they were too much, but Lloyd told me to use them and not worry. I guess it could be a function of the factory heads but not sure.

I just wanted to let you know I'm using the same injector as you and have had good results but with the LE2 heads.
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If the FP is to big(flows to much), it will put so much pressure on the rails, that it will flood the engine.
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I know where you can get 24# set for $140.
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Mike - are you still using the factory heads unported with factory valves?

I have the same 30# FMS injectors with no problems thus far over the past couple years. Lots of people told me they were too much, but Lloyd told me to use them and not worry. I guess it could be a function of the factory heads but not sure.



I just wanted to let you know I'm using the same injector as you and have had good results but with the LE2 heads.
Thanks BG. It has run just fine with those 30's.I don't know how they could be the issue now.

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If the FP is to big(flows to much), it will put so much pressure on the rails, that it will flood the engine.
The tuner has to turn it down,correct? An adjustable FPR will not work on OBDII

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I know where you can get 24# set for $140.


On another note I put a Noid light on it and all the injectors are pulsing. Fuel pressure is about 40 running.

Now I have another problem. I can get it to run but it seems to be running on about half the cylinders and the temp gets up really fast. That might explain why it's flooding so bad this time. Looks like it might be opti time again.
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Could it be possible that I flooded it so bad that I could have some spark plugs that are grounded out and that is why it's only partially firing?
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Is the coolant low? If the ect senser is not touching coolant the readings it gives the ecm will not be accurate.
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I don't think it's fuel related..........What could cause this? Obviously ignition but what?

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No takers on the weird spark plugs?
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Is the coolant low? If the ect senser is not touching coolant the readings it gives the ecm will not be accurate.
Could air in the cooling system work the same way? I haven't bled it completely yet.
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Originally Posted by Weav's Vet
Could air in the cooling system work the same way? I haven't bled it completely yet.
No, and the coolant sensor is not an issue at startup.
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Old Mar 29, 2010 | 01:17 AM
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Check spark at all 8 cylinders
AFPR will work on OBDII cars.
OHM the injectors.
Getting hot quick is a sign of a bad running engine.

Did it ever run good w/30# injectors?
Did this problem just happen or was it after you did something?
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