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Advice on Torque Converter
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Advice on Torque Converter
94 auto and I just finished putting in a D44 w/3.54's, bushings, bearings, universal's, etc.
I thought I fixed the leak on the front pump seal on the trans but it looks like it is leaking again so time to pull the tranny (again). I figure now is the time to change the torque converter.
Looking for suggestions for a torque converter and I am a bit confused by all the options out there and where to get one?
-D
I thought I fixed the leak on the front pump seal on the trans but it looks like it is leaking again so time to pull the tranny (again). I figure now is the time to change the torque converter.
Looking for suggestions for a torque converter and I am a bit confused by all the options out there and where to get one?
-D
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94 auto and I just finished putting in a D44 w/3.54's, bushings, bearings, universal's, etc.
I thought I fixed the leak on the front pump seal on the trans but it looks like it is leaking again so time to pull the tranny (again). I figure now is the time to change the torque converter.
Looking for suggestions for a torque converter and I am a bit confused by all the options out there and where to get one?
-D
I thought I fixed the leak on the front pump seal on the trans but it looks like it is leaking again so time to pull the tranny (again). I figure now is the time to change the torque converter.
Looking for suggestions for a torque converter and I am a bit confused by all the options out there and where to get one?
-D
What do you do with the car? street only? Drag race? Road race?
What is your budget?
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Thanks Pete, I was hoping you would chime in.
Right now, it is more of a weekend driver/hobby. No plans to do any racing or autocross, but you never know. I will probably do some track times coming up more for fun than anything else. As I have been working on resurecting it I have been trying to do it right and breath life into it a little at a time.
So far mods are not major, besides the D44/gears, J55's, high flow cats, corsa, injectors and all around tune up maint stuff and playing with the computer to get more out of it.
As most folks do, everytime I think I am going to stop for a while I end up doing some more so I would not rule out some of the more basic top end upgrades in the future.
As far as money goes I was thinking between 600-800.
-David
Right now, it is more of a weekend driver/hobby. No plans to do any racing or autocross, but you never know. I will probably do some track times coming up more for fun than anything else. As I have been working on resurecting it I have been trying to do it right and breath life into it a little at a time.
So far mods are not major, besides the D44/gears, J55's, high flow cats, corsa, injectors and all around tune up maint stuff and playing with the computer to get more out of it.
As most folks do, everytime I think I am going to stop for a while I end up doing some more so I would not rule out some of the more basic top end upgrades in the future.
As far as money goes I was thinking between 600-800.
-David
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Thanks Pete, I was hoping you would chime in.
Right now, it is more of a weekend driver/hobby. No plans to do any racing or autocross, but you never know. I will probably do some track times coming up more for fun than anything else. As I have been working on resurecting it I have been trying to do it right and breath life into it a little at a time.
So far mods are not major, besides the D44/gears, J55's, high flow cats, corsa, injectors and all around tune up maint stuff and playing with the computer to get more out of it.
As most folks do, everytime I think I am going to stop for a while I end up doing some more so I would not rule out some of the more basic top end upgrades in the future.
As far as money goes I was thinking between 600-800.
-David
Right now, it is more of a weekend driver/hobby. No plans to do any racing or autocross, but you never know. I will probably do some track times coming up more for fun than anything else. As I have been working on resurecting it I have been trying to do it right and breath life into it a little at a time.
So far mods are not major, besides the D44/gears, J55's, high flow cats, corsa, injectors and all around tune up maint stuff and playing with the computer to get more out of it.
As most folks do, everytime I think I am going to stop for a while I end up doing some more so I would not rule out some of the more basic top end upgrades in the future.
As far as money goes I was thinking between 600-800.
-David
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Thanks Pete, I was hoping you would chime in.
Right now, it is more of a weekend driver/hobby. No plans to do any racing or autocross, but you never know. I will probably do some track times coming up more for fun than anything else. As I have been working on resurecting it I have been trying to do it right and breath life into it a little at a time.
So far mods are not major, besides the D44/gears, J55's, high flow cats, corsa, injectors and all around tune up maint stuff and playing with the computer to get more out of it.
As most folks do, everytime I think I am going to stop for a while I end up doing some more so I would not rule out some of the more basic top end upgrades in the future.
As far as money goes I was thinking between 600-800.
-David
Right now, it is more of a weekend driver/hobby. No plans to do any racing or autocross, but you never know. I will probably do some track times coming up more for fun than anything else. As I have been working on resurecting it I have been trying to do it right and breath life into it a little at a time.
So far mods are not major, besides the D44/gears, J55's, high flow cats, corsa, injectors and all around tune up maint stuff and playing with the computer to get more out of it.
As most folks do, everytime I think I am going to stop for a while I end up doing some more so I would not rule out some of the more basic top end upgrades in the future.
As far as money goes I was thinking between 600-800.
-David
I would recommend the same 2800 stall converter that toptechx6 has.
Staying below 3000 (with a lighter weight 9.5 inch converter) will prevent the need for reprogramming due to "stall wall", and will feel quite tight. In my opinion, it is a great compromise for normal street driving, acceleration, durability with minimal heat generated.
You do not have to spend $600-800 or more to get what you need.
It can be done for $550
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From: Citrus Heights California
Check out the Vigilante. It's a light weight 9 1/2" convertor.
http://www.700r4l60e.com/store/catal...kup-p-179.html
http://www.700r4l60e.com/store/catal...kup-p-179.html
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Actually looking at Vigilante is what made me ask the question....1, 2 or 3 clutches...diamond plate covers....etc. How much is really needed for a just a all business converter and how much for the name on it?
They get really expensive.
I am sure it is a great product but....
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Actually looking at Vigilante is what made me ask the question....1, 2 or 3 clutches...diamond plate covers....etc. How much is really needed for a just a all business converter and how much for the name on it?
They get really expensive.
I am sure it is a great product but....
They get really expensive.
I am sure it is a great product but....
Under 700HP, a billet back is bling. It is a $150 upgrade that is not needed.
Multiple clutches are not proven, and some call them a gimmick, as one plate takes most of the load anyway.
*Vigilante is a quality company, that makes a quality product. You cannot take that away from them. Do you need that much bling, for the extra money is the real question.
The unit I sell is guaranteed for 1 year. No questions asked if you break it.
Well, I will ask because I am curious, bu it won't matter. Full replacement. I am that confident because I have yet to see any of my converters break, for any reason. Prolly just put the whammy on it for being confident, but it is true. None broken yet.
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I've been running a Vigilante for years (actually a couple of them) and have been very happy. I've got the 3 clutch models and lock up the converter at full throttle after the 1-2 shift. I run mid 10's and have not had a converter problem. During a freshenup, the billet back was actually ballooning (they couldn't explain why) and they replaced it at no charge.
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From: Sandy Ut
I would like your recomendations as well. Here are the car particulars.
Car is getting a 377 to 406 (depends on what I find when I get it to the machine shop... Long Story). It is going to have a pair of 88MM turbos (GT3788 Garrett Turbo's) I am not sure if I am going to have the ***** to spray it but it is going to be plumbed for 4 stages of NOS. My guess with that is it would benifit from an anti-balloning torque converter. I am going to run a stage 3 meth system as well. It is all going to be controlled by my Gen VII. It has a Ford 9" rear end. It is geared with 4.56 gears. The rear tires are 33X21.5 Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pro for the street and on the strip I am guessing they will not hold up so I will be going to a set of 29X19 Slicks. As for the Trans I am having a TH400 built to the hilt. This car will see major use on the drag strip, however I will be turning the boost down and doing limited street driving. I want to take it to a few car shows, and to the local coffee shop for a meet and greet every now and again.
So what would you recommend for my torque converter?
If you need more info please feel free to ask.
Car is getting a 377 to 406 (depends on what I find when I get it to the machine shop... Long Story). It is going to have a pair of 88MM turbos (GT3788 Garrett Turbo's) I am not sure if I am going to have the ***** to spray it but it is going to be plumbed for 4 stages of NOS. My guess with that is it would benifit from an anti-balloning torque converter. I am going to run a stage 3 meth system as well. It is all going to be controlled by my Gen VII. It has a Ford 9" rear end. It is geared with 4.56 gears. The rear tires are 33X21.5 Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pro for the street and on the strip I am guessing they will not hold up so I will be going to a set of 29X19 Slicks. As for the Trans I am having a TH400 built to the hilt. This car will see major use on the drag strip, however I will be turning the boost down and doing limited street driving. I want to take it to a few car shows, and to the local coffee shop for a meet and greet every now and again.
So what would you recommend for my torque converter?
If you need more info please feel free to ask.
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From: South East Michigan
This may be a dumb question, but if you have a 2800 stall, and your cruising rpm on the highway in OD (4L60E) is normally 2300 rpm, isn't the torque converter or stator just going to burn up?
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Regardless of how high a lock up converter is stalled, it has zero internal slippage once the lock up piston applies.
