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Old Apr 23, 2010 | 08:23 PM
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I'll have my new AFR 195 Street Eliminators for my '96 A4.

I want to give a big ole A+ to TPI421vette (Jim Barth) for bearing with me through the ordering process! As a lot of you already know he is "The Man" when it comes to the best price and customer service for ordering AFR heads.

Now, Do any of you think I'll see 400 rwhp with these? I'm at 345/338 now using uncorrected numbers with just the cam and a few bolt ons and tune.

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You have the untouched stockers on there now?

Will be interesting to see where things wind up and view both sheets (dyno) or time slips if you can get them.
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You have the untouched stockers on there now?

Will be interesting to see where things wind up and view both sheets (dyno) or time slips if you can get them.
Yes it will. Oh I'll be sure and get them.

Completely stock except for valve springs.
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Was the 345 rwhp STD or SAE? Since your running an auto I'm going to guess 380 rwhp (SAE).
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Originally Posted by stl94lt1
was the 345 rwhp std or sae? Since your running an auto i'm going to guess 380 rwhp (sae).
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EDIT...After going back and looking at the dyno graphs the 345 was using uncorrected numbers.

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If you get 400 rwhp that will be good for you and bad for me. Then I'll really want a set of the AFR Eliminators!!

Can't wait for the pictures and writeups to begin!!
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
If you get 400 rwhp that will be good for you and bad for me. Then I'll really want a set of the AFR Eliminators!!

Can't wait for the pictures and writeups to begin!!
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A few little details you will run into when installing those heads. I was working on a '95. The stock intake bolts were about 1/4" to long and the cent bolt valve cover bolts were also 1/4" to long. Had to grind off the valve cover bolts to make them work. Never heard that mentioned on here before.

I'm waiting on a PCMFORLESS tune and then I'll put my car on the dyno and see what it's making.
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A few little details you will run into when installing those heads. I was working on a '95. The stock intake bolts were about 1/4" to long and the cent bolt valve cover bolts were also 1/4" to long. Had to grind off the valve cover bolts to make them work. Never heard that mentioned on here before.

I'm waiting on a PCMFORLESS tune and then I'll put my car on the dyno and see what it's making.
Can't say I've read anything about that either. How did you handle the intake bolts, washers or just got new bolts?

Thanks for the heads up Looking forward to your results.

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What size combustion chambers are you getting?
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What size combustion chambers are you getting?
I went with 65cc mainly because of any future uses these might go on. I'm going to run the Impala gasket in hopes of raising compression slightly.
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I can't wait to see pix of those heads, but even better what a difference they make at the track. I have followed all your engine mod posts and I regularly go to your photobucket site which I have bookmarked, thanks for sharing.
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Originally Posted by Weav's Vet
I went with 65cc mainly because of any future uses these might go on. I'm going to run the Impala gasket in hopes of raising compression slightly.
It will be interesting to see what numbers you get with the larger combustion chambers. The LTx engines seems to really like compression, but hopefully the new design AFR's will make up the difference.
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Now that I've thought about it, I would guess 40hp more than you sit now. So, the guess of 380rwhp isn't bad. However, dropping 9cc compression could lose to 10hp more -- meaning you could end up around 375.

If there's a pool, put me in for 377rwhp!

Bet your excited!

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Originally Posted by tombrammer
I can't wait to see pix of those heads, but even better what a difference they make at the track. I have followed all your engine mod posts and I regularly go to your photobucket site which I have bookmarked, thanks for sharing.
So you're the one that's been running up my stats on Photobucket.....

J/K of course, I'm glad you're getting some use out of all those pictures. I'll have to do these up right then.
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
It will be interesting to see what numbers you get with the larger combustion chambers. The LTx engines seems to really like compression, but hopefully the new design AFR's will make up the difference.
I thought about it for quite some time on which chamber to go with. As I mentioned I figured I'd try to plan ahead for once even if it does hurt me in the short term.

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Now that I've thought about it, I would guess 40hp more than you sit now. So, the guess of 380rwhp isn't bad. However, dropping 9cc compression could lose to 10hp more -- meaning you could end up around 375.

If there's a pool, put me in for 377rwhp!

Bet your excited!
That would be a total of a 74 rwhp increase from heads/cam over what I had with bolt ons. A little over 100 from the stock dyno run I made. Still not bad and hopefully will put the car in the upper 11's at the track.

Yep, it's going to be a long month of May for sure!

BTW, I took your advice on the springs.

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Weav. I subscribe to chevHI performance mag, back in 99 they built an LT1 with a hot cam kit and LT4 heads, it make 129hp over stock with headers and 52mm TB. You should be above that. I imagine with that cam you have, the AFRs are really going to wake up your motor a whole bunch. The really interesting thing about the CHP build was that the increase in cam duration and even the move from 170cc to 195 cc heads added torque all thru the whole range even at 2500rpm. Did you ever see this guys car? @http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2467023 He ran a 11.4 @120 with a setup similar to yours. By the way are you thinking turbo or super charger with that 65cc chamber, ha ha!
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I thought about it for quite some time on which chamber to go with. As I mentioned I figured I'd try to plan ahead for once even if it does hurt me in the short term.
That makes sense. Knowing you, after a few runs with the AFR's on the stock shortblock you'll be planning a 383.

Victor Reinz makes a quality LTx head gasket that has a .026 compressed thickness. That's a little less than the Imp SS gaskets, not sure how much if any difference it would make.

http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/product.asp?ProdID=20111

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Adding to the cost of mods while youre doing it is never convenient but if you somehow can cut the decks back down the car will like it.
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
That makes sense. Knowing you, after a few runs with the AFR's on the stock shortblock you'll be planning a 383.

Victor Reinz makes a quality LTx head gasket that has a .026 compressed thickness. That's a little less than the Imp SS gaskets, not sure how much if any difference it would make.

http://www.cnc-motorsports.com/product.asp?ProdID=20111
Been getting parts ahead of time for this. Just so happens these are the head gaskets I have.
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