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Old May 19, 2010 | 07:48 PM
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I have an 88 Automatic. I've been having some odd clicky and almost grindy noises coming from my rear wheels lately. So I put the car on jack stands to see if I could diagnose. I couldn't replicate any of the sounds, but my tires would spin on their own while the car was on, in neutral. I hear it shouldn't do that. Any input?
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Old May 19, 2010 | 08:24 PM
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If the noise is near the wheels, its probably wheel bearings. It could also be the u-joints in the half shafts.
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Originally Posted by Paul Ruggeri
If the noise is near the wheels, its probably wheel bearings. It could also be the u-joints in the half shafts.
What would be a good way to diagnose that? U-joints and I aren't friends. We have history. I'd prefer not doing those. Though, it's cheaper than wheel bearings.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by Azriel
What would be a good way to diagnose that?
Raise the rear wheels one at a time. Grab a big handful of wheel at 12 and 6 o'clock and pull and push to see if you get a wabble. If you do then it is bearings. If you do not then you need to look at the u-joints.
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Old May 19, 2010 | 08:43 PM
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Originally Posted by 94z07fx3
Raise the rear wheels one at a time. Grab a big handful of wheel at 12 and 6 o'clock and pull and push to see if you get a wabble. If you do then it is bearings. If you do not then you need to look at the u-joints.
Does it have to be 1 at a time?
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Old May 20, 2010 | 06:29 AM
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Clicking noises point to U joints, grinding more so to bearings to me. Either can make both tho depending on how worn out. GM also produced a TSB to use a teflon washer to help with noise issues.

I dont think it matters if both wheels are off the ground when you check for play. Anything more than an 1/8th or so is a indication of worn bearings.

Good luck!
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Old May 20, 2010 | 10:32 AM
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The rear wheels on auto cars will turn when the car is in the air in newtral. It's normal. If the selector is in park, you've got a problem.
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Originally Posted by 383vett
The rear wheels on auto cars will turn when the car is in the air in newtral. It's normal. If the selector is in park, you've got a problem.
Thank you, that's what I was looking for


There's no play in the wheels, so I'm guessing not bearings thankfully. There's a bulge I discovered in my passenger side tire, could that cause the noise?
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Old May 20, 2010 | 05:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Azriel
There's no play in the wheels, so I'm guessing not bearings thankfully.
Suppose it were a bearing. The odds that both sides would fail at the exact same time and to the exact same extent are extremely low. So since you tested them and they both felt the same then they are ok.

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There's a bulge I discovered in my passenger side tire, could that cause the noise?
I think you wrote about a "clicky" and a "grindy". I could buy the "clicky" sound being from the bulge but not the "grindy".

For the "grindy" I would look to the teflon washer on the spindle and U-joints at this point.
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To test the half-shaft U-joints jack one wheel, remove the wheel and try to rotate the rotor. If there is any rotation that is not carried right into the differential output shaft you have located the problem point.
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Originally Posted by 65Z01
To test the half-shaft U-joints jack one wheel, remove the wheel and try to rotate the rotor. If there is any rotation that is not carried right into the differential output shaft you have located the problem point.
What if the rotor was difficult to turn? Good sign?
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Leave the wheel on and rotate the tire. You can put a lot more force on the tire and rotate it one way and then the other to see if there is any play in the ujoints.
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If there is a buldge in sidewall then thats not causing noise.My corvette sometimes makes a growling noise briefly when taking off from a stop after putting the trans in drive,then the noise goes away & I never hear it again.The growling is only for a few seconds & I have no driveability issues so I'm not worried about it & it only happens right after shifting into D from being in Park.Is this the same thing happening to your car?
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Originally Posted by 94vettelover2
If there is a buldge in sidewall then thats not causing noise.My corvette sometimes makes a growling noise briefly when taking off from a stop after putting the trans in drive,then the noise goes away & I never hear it again.The growling is only for a few seconds & I have no driveability issues so I'm not worried about it & it only happens right after shifting into D from being in Park.Is this the same thing happening to your car?
Not quite. It's more of a muffled metal on metal sound that happens randomly while driving. So far, I haven't heard it since I replaced the tire, but I'll keep everyone updated.
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