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Old May 25, 2010 | 04:05 PM
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Tuner Pro RT won't save changes
it's always been a problem,TO SAVE

it save flags and constants ok, but the MAF tables don't save or save erroneous data, I tried reloading the software and tried updating it....

tried different bins....

comments plz need to tune car!!!!
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Old May 26, 2010 | 09:31 AM
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Wont save to the bin file or to the chip ?
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Old May 26, 2010 | 10:01 AM
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it is all software related, the changes i make don't even HOLD when I hit save, save, save.....
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Old May 28, 2010 | 03:14 PM
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You might try emailing Mark at Tunerpro. He's been very helpful to me in the past.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 06:15 PM
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After you make changes do you click save bin as....and rename it ? Works every time for me.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 06:51 PM
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After you make changes do you click save bin as....and rename it ? Works every time for me.
nope just tried it again, tried before, it's very buggy....

any other ideas?
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Old May 28, 2010 | 07:17 PM
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You didn't mention which version of TunerProRT that you're using, but I've noticed in some versions you need to move off of the changed value in a particular table first before saving in order to update (if emulating) or even save the change. I notice this more when emulating with the V5 beta. It is kind of a nuisance, but not a big deal really.

If you're working with the MAF tables, are you trying to save a value that is greater than the respective table's scalar? This could also be your problem.
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Old May 28, 2010 | 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by tequilaboy
You didn't mention which version of TunerProRT that you're using, but I've noticed in some versions you need to move off of the changed value in a particular table first before saving in order to update (if emulating) or even save the change. I notice this more when emulating with the V5 beta. It is kind of a nuisance, but not a big deal really.

If you're working with the MAF tables, are you trying to save a value that is greater than the respective table's scalar? This could also be your problem.

Well the version I have worked fine when I mothballed it for a few months, I isolated it for the moment to just the software itself, the autoprom ALDL connection is a little glitchy, but seem to be intermittent.

When the problem started I did "update" the software via "help" tab and it says that I have the latest, so I suppose since it was working at one time, ( the latest) i would not need to search for an older version.?

I have always had trouble saving and the truth be told JackDidley's solution was key in the past, however, it is shooting blanks today and days prior.

We'll, to comment on the value higher than the respective table scalar,I don't know what that means, most likely not; in desperation I plugged in minute changes, only to see the previous entry reappear immediately after ALL save buttons were clicked.

I even tried the download bin to file trick which frankly IIRC, works sometimes in the past

additionally, when I select all of MAF 1 values and boost the entire volume XX percentile, and when I reopen after a save; some entries would change and most recently all entries BECAME the same, this is spooky.

So it will not get past the change and save...
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Another thought.

The smallest incremental change that you can make will be equal to the table scalar divided by 255.

For example MAF table #1, the scalar is typically 23. The smallest change you can make (and save) would be 23/255 = 0.09016.

For this example you can set 255 possible values with 0.09016 incremental changes within the 23 gm/sec range allowed by the scalar.

The editor may allow you to make a smaller change, but it wll have no effect when saved and reopened.

As the tables go up, the scalar also goes up which increases the size of the minimum incremental change. Table #6 has a scalar of 255 so the minimum incremental change is 255/255 or 1 gm/sec.

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Thanks for the explanation, I tried changes to MAF #6 and a teenie change on #1 nothing held, I tried, tried again with other bins, they do not take.

strangely, all the other tables and functions do accept changes...and hold even after shutting down the program and relaunching it.

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I don't know if this will help, but I ran into a problem trying to change the tune after installing a new cam. I hadn't made any changes in a year or so. I downloaded the bin and tried to change the timing table to settle down the bouncing idle and everything went to crap. Something happened to the software on my laptop. I had to start from scratch. I downloaded a clean bin from Tunerpro and redid all my original changes and the new ones. After uploading it everything is good now.
Maybe you need to start all over aswell
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Originally Posted by Paul Ruggeri
I don't know if this will help, but I ran into a problem trying to change the tune after installing a new cam. I hadn't made any changes in a year or so. I downloaded the bin and tried to change the timing table to settle down the bouncing idle and everything went to crap. Something happened to the software on my laptop. I had to start from scratch. I downloaded a clean bin from Tunerpro and redid all my original changes and the new ones. After uploading it everything is good now.
Maybe you need to start all over aswell

yeah I was trying to avoid that, but you are right, I am uninstalling right now.....
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Try right click and show raw hex values. This may offer a clue to what's going on. Can you change any of the raw hex values and save them?

Check the xdf item's conversion tab (right click, edit xfd item info, select the conversion tab. Are the correct table scalars linked? or is there a fixed conversion? Does the linked item have the correct address?
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Originally Posted by tequilaboy
Try right click and show raw hex values. This may offer a clue to what's going on. Can you change any of the raw hex values and save them?

Check the xdf item's conversion tab (right click, edit xfd item info, select the conversion tab. Are the correct table scalars linked? or is there a fixed conversion? Does the linked item have the correct address?
No item shown as linked, however, I can change the raw hex values and it becomes save-able.


btw,uninstalled TP RT and re installed, the same files, ads, xdf, bin repopulated

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Originally Posted by slickfx3
No item shown as linked, however, I can change the raw hex values and it becomes save-able.


btw,uninstalled TP RT and re installed, the same files, ads, xdf, bin repopulated
If you're still having trouble with this, please email me the bin file and XDF that you're using, along with clear repro steps (i.e. which table to look at, which cell to change, and what value to set it to).
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Originally Posted by Mangus
If you're still having trouble with this, please email me the bin file and XDF that you're using, along with clear repro steps (i.e. which table to look at, which cell to change, and what value to set it to).
Thank sir but the bin file was corrupted somehow, I am good to go,now I just have to dial it all in! Thanks for the help!!
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