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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 08:52 AM
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I realize Corvettes are performance cars. I'm not a novice to Corvettes. This is my 3rd Vette in 7 years. Most guys have one in a lifetime. All 3 have ridden like a truck. I don't believe the cars were bought brand new riding like a truck or they would have never sold. I drive my C4 to work each day. My C5 is a car show garage queen.

San Diego s becoming the pot hole capital of the world. The city / county is broke so they don't fix the pot holes. Hitting one of these in my C4 will make your teeth rattle.

A guy who owns a Corvette shop in San Diego told me the ideal setup was heavy sway bars and stock shocks. The sways keep the car from leaning and stock shocks keep the ride half way decent. My '92 looks like pretty beefy sways. The front looked like at least 23mm. I didn't catch the rear but it's probably 21mm. On a C5 that's Z51.

My C5 has C6 ZO6 sways. That car isn't leaning in a curve.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by mundo
I realize Corvettes are performance cars. I'm not a novice to Corvettes. This is my 3rd Vette in 7 years. Most guys have one in a lifetime. All 3 have ridden like a truck. I don't believe the cars were bought brand new riding like a truck or they would have never sold. I drive my C4 to work each day. My C5 is a car show garage queen.

San Diego s becoming the pot hole capital of the world. The city / county is broke so they don't fix the pot holes. Hitting one of these in my C4 will make your teeth rattle.

A guy who owns a Corvette shop in San Diego told me the ideal setup was heavy sway bars and stock shocks. The sways keep the car from leaning and stock shocks keep the ride half way decent. My '92 looks like pretty beefy sways. The front looked like at least 23mm. I didn't catch the rear but it's probably 21mm. On a C5 that's Z51.

My C5 has C6 ZO6 sways. That car isn't leaning in a curve.
yeah, the city of SD is broke as a joke, but the roadways in North Co are are lot better. The whole suspension thing is elusive. The last two years of c4 were sprung really soft and that's a problem at times if you drive hard on my '95. I have an 08 Z51 with the 35 and 40 series 18/19's and it isn't to stiff at all. They must have made the 95 base suspension for geezers who drive under the speed limit though, as I'm always on the bump stops.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 10:57 AM
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For those who don't want their Corvette to ride like a Corvette you can go to KYB shocks. www.shockwarehouse.com Do not buy Monroe!
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by mundo
A guy who owns a Corvette shop in San Diego told me the ideal setup was heavy sway bars and stock shocks. The sways keep the car from leaning and stock shocks keep the ride half way decent. My '92 looks like pretty beefy sways. The front looked like at least 23mm. I didn't catch the rear but it's probably 21mm. On a C5 that's Z51.
I think that works to a degree. My Aurora has a 30mm front bar. Of course it weighs more too, but the ride is sort of clip-cloppy over one-wheel bumps. The anti-roll bar has the effect of a stiff spring when one wheel moves relative to the other (which is how it counters body roll) but no effect when both wheels move the same way. So hitting a pothole or one-side bump, it can still be rough. Slamming over a speed bump, pavement transition, etc it won't play a part.

Unlike the 'vette, though, it has a very stiff chassis. So you hear the bumps clip-clop, but you really don't feel anything. It's still a bit offputting though.

Also, with soft shocks and springs, but stiff anti-roll bars, you would have to worry about using up all the suspension travel over big bumps, dips, etc. A C4 doesn't have a ton of travel, and hitting the bump stops will feel a lot worse than any shocks do.

I don't think you need to defend your Corvette history, though. If you don't like the ride, you should do something about it. You might want to verify that the shocks are not the HD ones, though. It may be they are, and base-ride Bilsteins wouldn't be as objectionable.

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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San Diego s becoming the pot hole capital of the world. The city / county is broke so they don't fix the pot holes. Hitting one of these in my C4 will make your teeth rattle.

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Boy, I have to agree with you on that one. I travel all over Northern California, and we have the same pot holes... It seems to be a statewide problem really...

That being said, I have a 94 Coupe with new Bilstein HD, and they are a little "trucky", especially in large shopping center parking lots However, once on the freeway, they help me steer around all those potholes at full speed... I love 'em.

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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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I have a 92 base corvette with the KYB's and it rides really nice. Those are the only brand other than bilstein that I would install. You can get all 4 for a little over $100 bucks.
Alot of people on here have them.
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I have a 92 base corvette with the KYB's and it rides really nice. Those are the only brand other than bilstein that I would install. You can get all 4 for a little over $100 bucks.
The KYB's are a great alternative to a performance shock.
I installed a set for long distance traveling as the wife wasn't very proud of my Koni's.
The bounce that the KYB's produced made spirited driving difficult over 60mph.

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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 03:11 AM
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onto my Z07 FX3 my bilsteins are doing wonders and dont feel like a truck !
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 08:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
For those who don't want their Corvette to ride like a Corvette you can go to KYB shocks. www.shockwarehouse.com Do not buy Monroe!
What is a "Corvette" ride? Is a Corvette ride where the whole car shutters when hitting a bump? You can actually see the hood shake? Some bumps make the car feel like its been dropped? I don't think so.

I understand a Corvette should have a bit firmer ride than a sedan. Shock absorbers do more than just make the driver and passenger feel comfortable. By absorbing shock, shock is NOT transferred to other parts of the car causing damage. Also, providing stability. The Bilsteins I have can actually cause the car to shift / swing sideways on certain kinds of bumps. I don't thing that is adding to stability. I opened this thread to get other opinions and share solutions.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 09:37 AM
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Originally Posted by mundo
What is a "Corvette" ride? Is a Corvette ride where the whole car shutters when hitting a bump? You can actually see the hood shake? Some bumps make the car feel like its been dropped? I don't think so.

I understand a Corvette should have a bit firmer ride than a sedan. Shock absorbers do more than just make the driver and passenger feel comfortable. By absorbing shock, shock is NOT transferred to other parts of the car causing damage. Also, providing stability. The Bilsteins I have can actually cause the car to shift / swing sideways on certain kinds of bumps. I don't thing that is adding to stability. I opened this thread to get other opinions and share solutions.
Why are you jumping on me. I gave you a viable alternative. If you just want to bitch and and whine why don't you go over to the general section. They will give you a big hug and some tears and tell you everything will be OK. Or maybe you could watch Oprah or Dr. Phil and get some really good advice.

If you have owned 3 Corvettes you should know how they ride by now. Didn't you test drive the car before you bought it!
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Originally Posted by mundo
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The C4 is worse. It really rides like a truck.
The worst is man-hole covers. Usually in asplhalt and about 1/2 to an inch recessesd.
Man when you hit a man hole cover the the whole car shuuters and sometimes actually shifts.
Both cars have low profile tires with Bilstien shocks. The net result there is no give in the side wall or the shock and wham! the whole car an actually shifts when hitting a small bump or pot holed road.

I just want a smoother ride. Anybody have similar experience.
Well, I usually try to avoid hitting manhole covers and the like so it's difficult to draw any parallels here.

You might try switching back to factory spec tires and see if your ride quality is more to your liking.....
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 12:10 PM
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KYB Gas Adjust those will do the trick
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
Why are you jumping on me. I gave you a viable alternative. If you just want to bitch and and whine why don't you go over to the general section. They will give you a big hug and some tears and tell you everything will be OK. Or maybe you could watch Oprah or Dr. Phil and get some really good advice.
I'm not jumping on you. I just wanted to know the definition of a "Corvette ride" others opinion. You have helped me out which is the whole purpose of this thread on the forum. I'm going to look at KBY shocks as you and others have suggested. You seem a bit sensitive this morning. Don't take it personal my man. Its a forum, discussion, conversation. Try to keep a good decorum on the forum.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 01:33 PM
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Thats pretty much how corvettes ride, Like trucks. and the C4's are a lot more "truck" like then the C5's.

Also the roads in Ramona are not exactly the best. My Z06 has just about rattled itself apart driving there.
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So which are the stiffer Bilsteins: the HD's or the Sports?

I need to change my shocks over from the F45 setup sooner or later and want a performance shock, but the streets in Houston suck and this is a daily driver.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 01:45 PM
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So which are the stiffer Bilsteins: the HD's or the Sports?

I need to change my shocks over from the F45 setup sooner or later and want a performance shock, but the streets in Houston suck and this is a daily driver.
The Sports are stiffer, AKA Z51 shocks. The "HD" are better suited to a daily driver.
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
The Sports are stiffer, AKA Z51 shocks. The "HD" are better suited to a daily driver.
Can someone compare them on a stiffness scale of 1 to 10 or maybe compare them to the F45 setup?
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I put Edelbrock IAS ( Inertia Active Shocks) shocks on my '91 C4 and I love them . Push it through a corner and they stiffen up , take it easy and they are less harsh.
It'll never deliver a Cadillac ride, but I never wanted that. I like them!

I've driven from Toronto to Key West and back many times and they performed great.
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The later cars got softer base springs to help out with the ride.

If you don't have the base springs, you may want to swap them out.

Perhaps find someone that want to stiffer springs and do a swap.
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Originally Posted by Red C4
I put Edelbrock IAS ( Inertia Active Shocks) shocks on my '91 C4 and I love them . Push it through a corner and they stiffen up , take it easy and they are less harsh.
It'll never deliver a Cadillac ride, but I never wanted that. I like them!

I've driven from Toronto to Key West and back many times and they performed great.
Those look good, but man they're pricey!
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