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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:05 PM
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I turned on my a/c for the first time this year and only got warm air. I found the electrical connector to the compressor had come off. I reconnected and the ac works fine. Problem now is that I get a real heavy vibration in the gas pedal every time I give it gas. The exhaust note/sound also seems much louder under acceleration. The car did not have this problem prior to reconnecting compressor and when I disconnected the compressor the problem went away. Any thoughts or advice would be appreciated. Its an 86. Thanks guys
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:20 PM
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You might want to open the hood, start the car and then connect the compressor again to see if the engine is vibrating too much. It sounds like either an out of balance problem or a compressor that's hard for the motor to spin.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:37 PM
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Originally Posted by PBnf
You might want to open the hood, start the car and then connect the compressor again to see if the engine is vibrating too much. It sounds like either an out of balance problem or a compressor that's hard for the motor to spin.


Similar issue here. I can feel mine put a load on the motor when I'm running 60 or whenever the compressor kicks in. It also cycles on and off a lot. It cools fairly well.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 03:51 PM
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If it cycles a lot......the coolant is low.

It sucks what is available in the low side.....pulls it down to the level where the switch that is there to protect it senses a low coolant level....then it kicks off. Once the coolant circulates back to a certain level, the limit switch allows the compressor to kick back on......and the cycle starts all over again.

Putting a single can back in will stop the rapid cycling.
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Old Jun 28, 2010 | 11:09 PM
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Tell me more about this low coolant level switch. How does it work?

Originally Posted by jhammons01
If it cycles a lot......the coolant is low.

It sucks what is available in the low side.....pulls it down to the level where the switch that is there to protect it senses a low coolant level....then it kicks off. Once the coolant circulates back to a certain level, the limit switch allows the compressor to kick back on......and the cycle starts all over again.

Putting a single can back in will stop the rapid cycling.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 07:25 AM
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The freon level is expected to be in an operating pressure range. when it's not, it can damage certain components. GM installed a low pressure switch to prevent damaging the compressor when some freon has leaked out, and a high pressure switch to protect the tubes, hoses, compressor, evaporator and condenser from rupturing.
When the freon is low, the low press. switch is in line with the compressor clutch relay coil ground, and prevents it from engaging the clutch. basically the same happens with the high pressure switch.
when the compressor cycles, initially, all the system pressure on the high side and the low side is equal. this pressure should be ample to turn on the compressor because it was enough to trip the low pressure switch. when the freon goes through the condenser, and is cooled, the pressure drops, and the low pressure switch opens, dropping out the ground to the clutch relay. Then with the compressor shut off momentarily, the pressure rises back to where it was initially, with the low side and the high side pressure equal, and again it is enough for the low pressure switch to trip. It will cycle like that until someone adds freon. On a cold day,if the pressure is low enough, the low pressure switch stays open, and the compressor doesn't even turn. You have to jump the low pressure switch to get it to engage if it's really low. Jumpering the low pressure switch is just for testing purposes only, and shouldn't be left like that or compressor damage will occur.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 07:40 AM
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86 is r12. So you have to make sure you put the right flavor of freon in it.
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Originally Posted by coupeguy2001
The freon level is expected to be in an operating pressure range. when it's not, it can damage certain components. GM installed a low pressure switch to prevent damaging the compressor when some freon has leaked out, and a high pressure switch to protect the tubes, hoses, compressor, evaporator and condenser from rupturing.
When the freon is low, the low press. switch is in line with the compressor clutch relay coil ground, and prevents it from engaging the clutch. basically the same happens with the high pressure switch.
when the compressor cycles, initially, all the system pressure on the high side and the low side is equal. this pressure should be ample to turn on the compressor because it was enough to trip the low pressure switch. when the freon goes through the condenser, and is cooled, the pressure drops, and the low pressure switch opens, dropping out the ground to the clutch relay. Then with the compressor shut off momentarily, the pressure rises back to where it was initially, with the low side and the high side pressure equal, and again it is enough for the low pressure switch to trip. It will cycle like that until someone adds freon. On a cold day,if the pressure is low enough, the low pressure switch stays open, and the compressor doesn't even turn. You have to jump the low pressure switch to get it to engage if it's really low. Jumpering the low pressure switch is just for testing purposes only, and shouldn't be left like that or compressor damage will occur.
^^^What he said.....
lastly, on a hot day, and after the engine compartment gets hot, the pressure in the low side line is raised just enough......

So the cycling only occurs when the motor is cold...
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 12:52 PM
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Originally Posted by jhammons01
^^^What he said.....
lastly, on a hot day, and after the engine compartment gets hot, the pressure in the low side line is raised just enough......

So the cycling only occurs when the motor is cold...
I am still curious about the low coolant level switch.
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by MK 82
I am still curious about the low coolant level switch.
Can you be more specific?

Jake
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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Originally Posted by MK 82
I am still curious about the low coolant level switch.
it is merely a diaphragm that when the level of pressure drops.....it loses it's grounding contact and kills the electrical circuit.

It isn't a switch that you can depress or toggle by hand.

Lots of compressors will have a few wires plugged into the back of it......most likely that is the actual switch. You pull that plug and by using a wire that is where you jumper it to see if it is just low level or something else wrong.
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Not from a Vette

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Not from a Vette

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Here's one that is for a C4



http://www.ecklers.com/corvette-air-...l?dept_id=1194
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Zooom!
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Elrick.... Chevy put out a Dealer service bulletin in Sept. of 87 concerning this. #87-206 Number 1B

Moan or Vibration with A/C Running. It reccomended the installation of a power steering pump rear bracket and brace,P/N 10077573.

It was installed from rear of the compressor to the exhaust manifold.

Service Bulletin affected nearly all 85,86 &87 Corvettes.

Check to see if your compressor has a brace from the rear of the case the the exhaust manifold
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Old Jun 29, 2010 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by nutz4c4
Elrick.... Chevy put out a Dealer service bulletin in Sept. of 87 concerning this. #87-206 Number 1B

Moan or Vibration with A/C Running. It reccomended the installation of a power steering pump rear bracket and brace,P/N 10077573.

It was installed from rear of the compressor to the exhaust manifold.

Service Bulletin affected nearly all 85,86 &87 Corvettes.

Check to see if your compressor has a brace from the rear of the case the the exhaust manifold
yes I think I do see that brace. It goes from the back of the compressor and uses the exhaust manifold stud to bolt to. The system has been switched to r134, I put half a can in. The ac works pretty good but the vibration I get in the pedal tells me something is not right here. Unfortunately, I am not much of a mechanic but it seems to me that it is the compressor contributing to the vibration. Thanks for the info and the pm, I thought the thread was dead.
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Old Jun 30, 2010 | 10:23 PM
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That is not a low pressure switch!!!!!!
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