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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 04:57 PM
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Default Timing tape on a LT1/LT4

Anyone ever do it? I'm starting to wonder if this MSD opti with this adjustable timing bolt is correct or not. If this is off won't it affect the whole timing tables all the way to WOT?

Not hard to do it seems. Piston stop on #1, rotate crank in both directions until the piston hits the stop and mark damper where each direction stops, put "O" on the tape in the center of these two marks. Mount a pointer on this "O". This is TDC. Get a light and have at it.
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Just make sure it on the compression stroke.
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Just make sure you shoot a picture or write down where the tape is in relation to the balancer (0) mark.. If the tape comes off some day you will have to redo the whole thing again if you have no reference..Pete K sent me a picture of mine for my file when he built my motor,just in case the tape comes off.....WW
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My superdamper has timing marks on it....the hub is keyed eliminating having to establish TDC too....

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Originally Posted by MK 82
Just make sure it on the compression stroke.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 07:16 PM
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Originally Posted by aboatguy
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Originally Posted by MK 82
Just make sure it on the compression stroke.
I'll try and do that .....
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My superdamper has timing marks on it....the hub is keyed eliminating having to establish TDC too....

So where did the pointer end up? Not much view room down there.
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Originally Posted by WW7
Just make sure you shoot a picture or write down where the tape is in relation to the balancer (0) mark.. If the tape comes off some day you will have to redo the whole thing again if you have no reference..Pete K sent me a picture of mine for my file when he built my motor,just in case the tape comes off.....WW
Got ya WW. I may just file a little notch for reference.
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Originally Posted by Weav's Vet
So where did the pointer end up? Not much view room down there.
Still using FACTORY OPTI so I've never had a reason to use timing light on the LT1

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So, it's been about 25-30 years since I used a timing light. I'm going to have to buy one I guess. Now they are digital and lots of bells and whistles. Isn't a basic old 40.00 light good enough?
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on an L98, can't use a timing light for anything except a disco strobe unless the 'set timing' connector is unplugged...what will ewe do, with the LT1's opti/ecm to 'flat-line' the timing ?
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Why not just use your data logging software, turn the screw on the opti and see what happens?
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Originally Posted by STL94LT1
Why not just use your data logging software, turn the screw on the opti and see what happens?
For some reason it doesn't show up on any of that. So I figure a light is the only way to do it. Adjusting the screw as needed to set it correctly.
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Originally Posted by Weav's Vet
For some reason it doesn't show up on any of that. So I figure a light is the only way to do it. Adjusting the screw as needed to set it correctly.
IMO leave the screw where its at and have your tuner adjust the tune ...
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Originally Posted by aboatguy
IMO leave the screw where its at and have your tuner adjust the tune ...
I've emailed him and asked his input on it. I reset it back to the MSD factory setting per their instructions.
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The only way to actually know what timing the MSD is giving the engine is to rig up a timing pointer, verify with a scanner the advance the computer is providing and then observe the advance on the pulley. That's a lot of trouble. Some have noted that the screw does not alway engage properly and that would definitely skew the intended amount of advance/retard. That is one of the things I don't like about the MSD.
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Originally Posted by Weav's Vet
I've emailed him and asked his input on it. I reset it back to the MSD factory setting per their instructions.
Here's what he had to say.....


"Sure, it could affect things in either direction, either causing knock retard or hard starts, or even the lower dyno #s compared to what you were expecting. I don't know how the screw works exactly, but I would suspect it wouldn't show up on a data-log, yeah, since it's happening after the PCM".

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Originally Posted by aboatguy
IMO leave the screw where its at and have your tuner adjust the tune ...
The screw is a nice gimick to make a gross adjustment and that's it.
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Old Jul 1, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by 96GS#007
The screw is a nice gimick to make a gross adjustment and that's it.
But if I don't check it and set it to what he PCM is displaying how can it be correct? If it's advanced say 2 degrees and I leave it that way isn't the whole timing table advanced 2 degrees? Same if it's retarded.
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