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Old Jul 19, 2010 | 04:29 PM
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I drove a co-workers '85 today and it runs and drives fine, but at startup it sounds like it has trouble turning over, kinda like something is stuck, and then after a second or two it spins free and fires up. I didnt get a chance to look under the hood but it kinda feels like the timing is way advanced causing a hard start. She said it flashed it check engine light a few weeks ago but it went away. It happened right after she started it and she said it would sputter if she put a load on it (dirve up a hill) but the car was fine after it warmed up a bit. Any ideas? I dont know how similar it is to my '90 but what should I look for if I look at it again?
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Sounds like 2 problems to me. First thing is to get it so the starter turns it over like it's supposed to. First thing to check is the battery cables. Clean the cable ends and the battery terminals then see if it cranks over properly. If not have the battery checked.

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Originally Posted by Moon86
Sounds like 2 problems to me. First thing is to get it so the starter turns it over like it's supposed to. First thing to check is the battery cables. Clean the cable ends and the battery terminals then see if it cranks over properly. If not have the battery checked.

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start simple...did you pull the codes to see what was flashed?
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Originally Posted by Moon86
Sounds like 2 problems to me. First thing is to get it so the starter turns it over like it's supposed to. First thing to check is the battery cables. Clean the cable ends and the battery terminals then see if it cranks over properly. If not have the battery checked.

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Sounds like a good start. She is mechanically inclined and works on it herself so I will tell her to check that.

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start simple...did you pull the codes to see what was flashed?

I did not pull the codes, I didnt have the time/resources in the parking lot at work. I told her how though.
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Measure the battery terminal voltage during cranking, it should not fall below 9.0 volts or the battery connections need cleaning, battery is discharged, or the battery is at the end of its life. You can tell the state of charge by measuring the battery no load terminal voltage, 12.0 volts and below, discharged, charge the battery up overnight. 12.9 volts and above, fully charged and linear in between. I would also recommend using a timing light while someone cranks to see if the timing is set correctly. When cleaning battery connections always remove the neg post first and when reconnecting, connect the neg post last.
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Originally Posted by Moon86
Sounds like 2 problems to me.
I see a third....

Since you're being nice and working on HER car, how do you know whether to ask HER for lunch or visa-versa?
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Measure the battery terminal voltage during cranking, it should not fall below 9.0 volts or the battery connections need cleaning, battery is discharged, or the battery is at the end of its life. You can tell the state of charge by measuring the battery no load terminal voltage, 12.0 volts and below, discharged, charge the battery up overnight. 12.9 volts and above, fully charged and linear in between. I would also recommend using a timing light while someone cranks to see if the timing is set correctly. When cleaning battery connections always remove the neg post first and when reconnecting, connect the neg post last.
Yes I was going to try that very thing with the battery. I will see about checking timing.

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I see a third....

Since you're being nice and working on HER car, how do you know whether to ask HER for lunch or visa-versa?
I dont think my fiance would approve a date!
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