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Old Jul 22, 2010 | 12:32 AM
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What balanced do I use? Internal balanced or external? Fluidamper? ATI TIA.

This is for a 1 piece rear main seal pan. There is an adapter to make it a 1 piece though.
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Depends on your motor. The 2 or 1 piece seal is at the rear I don't believe has an impact on your balancer.

Go with a 6.75" smaller external if your motor is externally balanced so you can clear the front cross member. If you are internally balanced, get an internally balanced one.
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Originally Posted by USAsOnlyWay
Depends on your motor. The 2 or 1 piece seal is at the rear I don't believe has an impact on your balancer.

Go with a 6.75" smaller external if your motor is externally balanced so you can clear the front cross member. If you are internally balanced, get an internally balanced one.


Aklim: I recommend the "Pro Race" brand, "Pro Stock" series though. Not too expensive but better than Pioneer Balancers that have had delamination issues.

For $10 more you can even buy one with a bolt-in weight (if you're unsure how the RA will balance). (Some light-weight ext-bal RAs can actually use a neutral balancer if the pistons are light enough.)
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Originally Posted by aklim
What balanced do I use? Internal balanced or external?.
Check your crank specs;
many of the cheaper cranks like Eagle use a 400 crank core that is ext balance both ends

Originally Posted by USAsOnlyWay
If you are internally balanced, get an internally balanced one.
You mean neutral balance; all SBC are neutral at front except 400ci

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Aklim: I recommend the "Pro Race" brand, "Pro Stock" series though. Not too expensive but better than Pioneer Balancers that have had delamination issues.

For $10 more you can even buy one with a bolt-in weight (if you're unsure how the RA will balance). (Some light-weight ext-bal RAs can actually use a neutral balancer if the pistons are light enough.)
I remembered wrong. It was the "Pro Sport" model of the "Pro Race" brand. Item 34266 was the item I purchased. (As noted on their webside, ext balancers have a bolt-in weight. Another reason I liked this choice is because it is SFI rated -- which means it should hold up better (even for street driving).

Scat ext balance cranks need a 400 balancer. They don't have a "neutral" nose model (I don't think). I bought a Scat9000. They said it was supposed to be neutral nose. It was not. Read their website if you've got one of those.

Eagle has an ext rear / int front crank -- so it depends on what you bought.

I don't know about Lunati or other brands.

Stock config is ext rear/int front but you could have bought anything.

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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Stock config is ext rear/int front but you could have bought anything.
Originally Posted by aklim
There is an adapter to make it a 1 piece though.
It appears he may have a 2 pce crank in a one pce block
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Originally Posted by rodj
It appears he may have a 2 pce crank in a one pce block
Sounds like a reasonable assumption...That would mean it should be int/int balance, right?





Just like my application, I couldn't be sure until it went for balancing. Because the Scat9000 series says it has a so-called lighter-[imbalanced] nose, I had trouble anticipating.

It turned out that heavy metal COULD have made mine internal balance on the nose if I wanted to add it.
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My Scat was neatral in front external in rear and I ran my OEM balancer with a GOLEN engine, billet hub with keyway ($100)
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Sounds like a reasonable assumption...That would mean it should be int/int balance, right?
Or ext / ext if a 400 crank core was used
All the low end ( $150 ) Eagle strokers are 400 based

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Eagle...-/270607831673

You will see their notes state ;MUST use 400 balancer and flexplate
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Originally Posted by rodj
You mean neutral balance; all SBC are neutral at front except 400ci
Correct.
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