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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 01:22 PM
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1987 vert. 4+3 96k

Present Mods: Flowmaster cat back, open lid on breather.
Goals: To build a nice responsive street car.
HP Goal: 300
Budget: $1500

Proposed Mods:

Hedman Elite headers #68448
Remove precats and replace with hooker y pipe 3”
Replace cat with 3” in/out (already have flowmaster cat back)
Remove EGR, and air pump plumbing
Install SLP intake tubes, port/match factory plenum
delete slp
Add HSR
Install 1.6 roller tip rockers
Do TB bypass
Install adjustable fuel pump regulator

Possible options:
MAF mod
New injectors
Port match factory intake base

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Ck this out ...
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...ine-combo.html
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 1stvet87
1987 vert. 4+3 96k

Present Mods: Flowmaster cat back, open lid on breather.
Goals: To build a nice responsive street car.
HP Goal: 300
Budget: $1500

Proposed Mods:

Hedman Elite headers #68448
Remove precats and replace with hooker y pipe 3”
Replace cat with 3” in/out (already have flowmaster cat back)
Remove EGR, and air pump plumbing
Install SLP intake tubes, port/match factory plenum
Install 1.6 roller tip rockers
Do TB bypass
Install adjustable fuel pump regulator

Possible options:
MAF mod
New injectors
Port match factory intake base
No, some of those mods add nothing
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Old Aug 4, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
No, some of those mods add nothing

It will fell a hell of a lot better.. add a cam in the mix and you will get there.
Mine made 270 RWHP wit a mild cam and most of what you have there.
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Buy a LT1 and it comes with 300 HP

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/95-96...f#ht_500wt_956
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
No, some of those mods add nothing
I understand things like TB bypass does not add HP. But are you saying that with upgraded exhaust, 1.6 rockers, and SLP runners, not to mention any porting that somewhere near 300 is not achievable. If so would i just be releasing some of the factory 240hp that is not being utilized. Either way improved performance is the primary goal.
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Originally Posted by PLRX
Come on now where is the fun of just throwing money in to achieve a goal. What about all of the guys running class restrictions and squeezing every drop of performance from the old super stock 283's. Perhaps 300hp is not realistic for the mods i am suggesting. But those are the one's i am interested in spending my $1500 on. Thanks guys for your input, keep em coming.
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Find a cheap miniram, or customized HSR intake, instead of the slo stuff.

Then with the rest of what you have , you're there.
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Originally Posted by 1stvet87
1987 vert. 4+3 96k

Present Mods: Flowmaster cat back, open lid on breather.
Goals: To build a nice responsive street car.
HP Goal: 300
Budget: $1500

Proposed Mods:

Hedman Elite headers #68448
Remove precats and replace with hooker y pipe 3”
Replace cat with 3” in/out (already have flowmaster cat back)
Remove EGR, and air pump plumbing
Install SLP intake tubes, port/match factory plenum
Install 1.6 roller tip rockers
Do TB bypass
Install adjustable fuel pump regulator

Possible options:
MAF mod
New injectors
Port match factory intake base
Did you put a 3" cat-back on a stock car? What's your future goals. What's listed about is worth an optimistic 35hp IMO. But the AFPR is the one mod I find controversial. Vader's site show this mod as making some fairly significant gains. They were enough I had to wonder if the test car had a problem getting to 12.5 AFR w/o the mod.

I wouldn't do 3" pipe or the MAF mod with your config.
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Originally Posted by 1stvet87
I understand things like TB bypass does not add HP. But are you saying that with upgraded exhaust, 1.6 rockers, and SLP runners, not to mention any porting that somewhere near 300 is not achievable. If so would i just be releasing some of the factory 240hp that is not being utilized. Either way improved performance is the primary goal.
I think you will fall short of 300. I have a 1989 that I have done those kinds of mods to so I can speak with some confidence you will fall short.
However, the car will be peppier and sound better. They are still worth doing.
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Did you put a 3" cat-back on a stock car? What's your future goals. What's listed about is worth an optimistic 35hp IMO. But the AFPR is the one mod I find controversial. Vader's site show this mod as making some fairly significant gains. They were enough I had to wonder if the test car had a problem getting to 12.5 AFR w/o the mod.

I wouldn't do 3" pipe or the MAF mod with your config.
The cat back system was already on there when i bought it. Haven't measured pipe to be honest but it looks like a 3" just past the cat. Doing research i believe it to be the flowmaster i believe it was called force II. recommended for torque.
I also have read many opinions on the afpr's adding more hp. Not sure i would agree, but making sure adequate pressure is supplied to injectors so that proper spray patterns are acheived seems logical.

As far as future goals, I doubt i will go beyond the mods i have listed.
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Originally Posted by 1stvet87
The cat back system was already on there when i bought it. Haven't measured pipe to be honest but it looks like a 3" just past the cat. Doing research i believe it to be the flowmaster i believe it was called force II. recommended for torque.
I also have read many opinions on the afpr's adding more hp. Not sure i would agree, but making sure adequate pressure is supplied to injectors so that proper spray patterns are acheived seems logical.

As far as future goals, I doubt i will go beyond the mods i have listed.
Where is resort texas .. Come over to my house with a HSR intake and we will get it to fit.
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What would
Headers + 2.5 Exhaust Cat Back
Mild Cam
1.6 Roller Rockers
Ported Plenum
High-Flo Base & Runners
Under Drive Pulleys
Be worth on a 87
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Originally Posted by floridamale
What would
Headers + 2.5 Exhaust Cat Back
Mild Cam
1.6 Roller Rockers
Ported Plenum
High-Flo Base & Runners
Under Drive Pulleys
Be worth on a 87
My guess would be 320-340 HP depending on the cam.
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Originally Posted by 1stvet87
Come on now where is the fun of just throwing money in to achieve a goal.
Good point but you can buy the LT1 and with those mods you'll get more HP out of it.

If you have a busget of $1,500 it means you can go $5,000. How do I know?

I had no money when I bought my LT4 Vette and magically I rebuilt and fixed the whole thing. Money is there, get a loan, get a new credit card. Live now, December 21, 2012 is coming .
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Originally Posted by ch@0s
My guess would be 320-340 HP depending on the cam.
Kind of what I was thinking
Take the cam out of it and just about 300 hp
no tune needed
Thanks
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Originally Posted by ch@0s
Where is resort texas .. Come over to my house with a HSR intake and we will get it to fit.
Morgans Point Resort is just off 35 outside of Temple/Belton. There is also a Morgans Point somewhere near coast, Galveston area. I used to live and work in your area. Remember Lawrence Marshall Chevrolet in Hempstead.
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Originally Posted by PLRX
Good point but you can buy the LT1 and with those mods you'll get more HP out of it.

If you have a busget of $1,500 it means you can go $5,000. How do I know?

I had no money when I bought my LT4 Vette and magically I rebuilt and fixed the whole thing. Money is there, get a loan, get a new credit card. Live now, December 21, 2012 is coming .
You don't know how hard i have to fight the urge to go whole hog. Was talking to a relative who drag races competitively, he runs a 434ci running 9's. He offered to help build a motor, but this car is not going down that avenue. I'm still old school, headers, few exterior motor mods thats enough for now. I'm raising 2 grandkids, got to behave.
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Originally Posted by PLRX
Good point but you can buy the LT1 and with those mods you'll get more HP out of it.

If you have a busget of $1,500 it means you can go $5,000. How do I know?

I had no money when I bought my LT4 Vette and magically I rebuilt and fixed the whole thing. Money is there, get a loan, get a new credit card. Live now, December 21, 2012 is coming .
But it's only gonna happen in Cali.
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