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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:24 PM
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Will the zz4 cam work with the stock converter on my 90 l98?
It will be changed in the future but have to hold off for now.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 12:37 PM
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Should work just fine if that is your only mod. You WILL need a tune.
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Should work just fine if that is your only mod. You WILL need a tune.
The ZZ4 cam is not much better than stock. If you are doing a cam swap there are better options for all that work.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 01:06 PM
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Like what I don't want to lose to much drivability and most bigger cams need a converter.
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 05:38 PM
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Ive been running the ZZ4 for years with a stock converter. No problem. You will need a tune to take advantage of the added lift. Its real street friendly though.
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Is it a noticeable differance in performance and does it have a lope to the idle?
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Originally Posted by slamin1
does it have a lope to the idle?
You will know " something" is in there
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Old Sep 2, 2010 | 10:20 PM
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Is there a noticeable performance increase?
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ZZ4 is fairly to stock spec imo too much so. You wont have a lope; possibly consider a 212-214ish duration on the intake you can still use the stock converter still have a smooth idle pass smog etc and will feel a difference. It takes more of a jump in size to feel things than youd think. Opinions will vary
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Stock L98 cam
Duration @ .050", 202/207
Lift: .413/.428 ,
114.5 LSA

ZZ4 cam :
Duration @.050 208/221
Lift: .474/.510
112 LSA

i really liked mine , i had it for a while with a stock tune, stock converter
and worked great !!!
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ZZ4 is fairly to stock spec imo too much so. You wont have a lope; possibly consider a 212-214ish duration on the intake you can still use the stock converter still have a smooth idle pass smog etc and will feel a difference. It takes more of a jump in size to feel things than youd think. Opinions will vary
Something with more duration would be noticed more than the ZZ4. I have a ZZ4 in my car and the improvement was not very noticeable. I personally like custom grind cams but off the shelf I would go with something like one of these:

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...?csid=186&sb=2

http://www.compcams.com/Company/CC/c...?csid=179&sb=2

These would be best on a near stock engine. You would need a tune with any cam change. Headers and a good flowing exhaust system will wake up the car tremendously! At that point a little more exhaust duration (220-226 ish) and you will feel a nice improvement. I put the ZZ4 in my car cause I was new at cam technology and it was free. To do over I would get a custom grind for a stock L98 with headers which would end up looking like:

212-216 intake duration, and .500 lift
220-226 exhaust duration and .520 lift
112 LSA
106 ICL

Any more lift and the heads need to be checked for clearance. A cam in those ranges should work with a stock converter as well.

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When I was looking for cams for my 91 L98, somebody sent me this list of possibilities... it was great for a comparison. Maybe it will help.

ZZ4 (TPiS) 208/221 DUR
474/510 LIFT

ZZ9 (TPiS) 212/226
483/520

ZZ409 (TPiS) 226/226
520/520

CC502 (Comp) 218/224
495/503

CC503 (Comp) 224/230
503/510

LT4 HOTCAM
218/228
492/492

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Kubs,

Your desired specs are a lot like the TPiS ZZ9 cam. The ZZ9 would be a good choice for an auto.
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:21 AM
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Yeah I've been lookin at the zz9 also for a while my friend had the Hot cam in his 87 and he could never get it to run right. So he ripped it out an put in the ligenfelter cam.
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 10:24 AM
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Kubs,
Those two comp cams you linked have Lsa of 110 there no good for FI cars at least I think they aren't
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Originally Posted by BADDUCK
Kubs,

Your desired specs are a lot like the TPiS ZZ9 cam. The ZZ9 would be a good choice for an auto.
I forget they make cams too. They have a good selection for stock to slightly modified L98s, but I wouldnt use them in a high performance type engine. JMHO

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Kubs,
Those two comp cams you linked have Lsa of 110 there no good for FI cars at least I think they aren't
I good tuner like PCMforless can tune it without issues. I have read of people using tighter LSAs in EFI cars. It depends on what you what to do with your car but you dont really need to go less than 110, especially for a stock/ish engine.
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 01:18 PM
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I agree with the guys you will kik yourself after all the work if you don't go with a better cam. I wouldn't go with anything smaller than a LT4 hotcam. Put better springs on it if you are pulling the heads that way you could go with 1.6 RR later.
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With the hot cam I'm going to need a converter right? Maybe I'll do that first and hold off on the cam till after I just isn't want to take out the tranny yet wanted to do the whole tranny at once.
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Old Sep 3, 2010 | 02:31 PM
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I see no point in putting a hotcam in an otherwise stock L98. A ZZ9 or LPE 211 is a better choice IMO especially for a auto street car.
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