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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 10:34 AM
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I have a 93 A4 with 68K , I recently installed new radiator hoses. Drained out the old anti freeze it was full of crude, after installing new anti freeze and engine cooled down , I removed the radiator cap there was drops of oil floating on top of the water. Could it be the radiator is shot and the auto fluid is somehow mixing with the water. Thanks for your help as usual Jim.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 10:43 AM
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In my experience when you get oil in the coolant that usually means a blown head gasket. Although I'd wait and get a few more opinions from some other forum members before I went into that project.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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In my experience when you get oil in the coolant that usually means a blown head gasket. Although I'd wait and get a few more opinions from some other forum members before I went into that project.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 11:03 AM
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 11:35 AM
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Default Re: Help oil in water (Jim D)

I concur... trans fluid would be prone to mix with the water, not seperate.

its oil. sorry. check your oil - when there is oil in water, there should be water with oil.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 11:37 AM
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Update ,I talked to my Vette mechanic he said that GM puts a sealer in the coolant system , and this is probably what it is... Any thoughts
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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Negative. The sealer is for like the water pump seals and such. No other motor in the world has ever required a special sealer to keep oil from getting into the coolant. Also remember that if oil is flowing into the coolant, you have coolant flowing into your oil. Now if you are lucky the oil floats and the actual coolant gets so far down that it isn't sucked up by the oil pickup. Can you say spun bearings?

If you put sealer in it NOW you'll just wind up with sealer in your oil. You need to figure out where it is leaking (head gasket most likely) then fix the problem, change the fluids, and then and only then if you want to add the sealer, do so.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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my first guess is head gasket.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 12:07 PM
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Have checked your motor oil? I suggest pulling the dipstick, and looking at the color of your oil. If it appears to be a lumpy sort of light tan (not transparent) color, you have water getting into your oil. There can be many reason why this happens (warped head, cracked head, blown head gasket, etc.)
Have you overheated the car recently? If so, that would be why this has happened. Keep us posted on what you find.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 12:21 PM
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I'm with KLLRVET, if it's in you coolant and it's your head gasket you should have coolant in your oil.. also if I remember correctly if you take your radiator cap off (of course when the system is cool) and you start your vette bubbles will appear due to pressure escaping through your head gasket..
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All of the above is good advice...but first, make sure it's oil. If your old antifreeze was as bad as you said, it could be built up residue goo you're seeing.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 02:29 PM
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Pull a valve cover off, that's an easy way to tell you will notice a whitish gray gunk type stuff in your valve cover if you have water in your oil.
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Old Mar 29, 2002 | 03:03 PM
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It doesn't take much water to make the oil turn milky white. If it's already that color though you've probably already messed up your bearings or cylinder walls +.
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 01:18 AM
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Default Re: Help oil in water (Jim D)

I've blown a lot of headgaskets in my time. Unless the oil looks like a milkshake, I'd be suprised if it is a blown headgasket. The coolant is under pressure and the oil (at least where it is close to the cooling system) is not. Not sure where in an LT-1 head and deck there is a location where the oil is under greater pressure than the coolant.

On the Transmission Cooler, I am uncertain how much pressure the transmission fluid is under, but it is safe to bet it is less than the 15 or so psi in the cooling system when you shut the car off. This would force coolant into the transmission.

Please take a good look at the oil and the transmission fluid. If they are okay I'd either flush the system very well (draining is not enough), refill and check again.

Mark

If the oil looks okay I'd pull back from being in panic mode.
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 12:02 PM
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Default Re: Help oil in water (Jim D)

I have seen a leak from the transmission cooler portion of the radiator (GM product but not a Corvette) move lots of transmission fluid into the cooling system. The leak was so bad, the transmission was about 3 quarts low and slipping. Transmission fluid was dripping from the radiator overflow. Easy troubleshooing there. How about the color of the oil? You could have a small seep from the transmission's cooling part of the radiator to the coolant. Maybe a radiator shop could leak test the system and determine if there is a small crack or weak joint.
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