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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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In my 91, the TPS is not adjustable. Is there an adjustable one? IIRC, some models did have one which is adjustable.

I haven't read the code so I don't know but I thought someone said that in 91 it doesn't matter since the startup voltage is the idle voltage.

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there are many TPI FPR available!!!
I like the Holley version.. it has a big stainless dial to adjust your pressure...
most FPR have a 6mm bolt you need to use a wrench to adjust
my bad... Sorry your 91 TPS is non adjustable 89 and under is adjustable.. updated TB

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Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
there are many TPI FPR available!!!
I like the Holley version.. it has a big stainless dial to adjust your pressure...
most FPR have a 6mm bolt you need to use a wrench to adjust
What about the TPS?
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Old Oct 14, 2010 | 04:59 PM
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Unless it's different from my '89, the adjustment is performed by loosening the mounting screws them moving (rotating) it to get the correct closed voltage (.54 on mine). Then, full open voltage "is what it is", but should be over 4V.
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Originally Posted by GREGGPENN
Unless it's different from my '89, the adjustment is performed by loosening the mounting screws them moving (rotating) it to get the correct closed voltage (.54 on mine). Then, full open voltage "is what it is", but should be over 4V.
It is different from mine. I have the TPS with two holes. Some have 2 slots and are adjustable. Mine are not.
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Maybe the solution would be to get one for an 89?
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the TPS connector is different as well
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Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
the TPS connector is different as well
http://www.eficonnection.com/eficonn..._pigtails.aspx

http://www.autozone.com/autozone/acc...ier=47133_0_0_

They seem to be the same?
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if you trade your TB for a 89 or under
you will have adjust ability
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Originally Posted by THE 383 admiral
if you trade your TB for a 89 or under
you will have adjust ability
Sorry, should have mentioned that I have an Accel 58mm TB. Supposedly it is for the 89 and up and the other option is an 85-88. Not sure what the difference is. Thought it was the linkage.
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Use a small drill bit, or file and slot the holes.
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According to the pics at Autozone, 89 and below has one sensor and 90 and 91 is a different one
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Why are you wanting to make it adjustable? It has been a while. But I recall the non adjustable ones don't need to be adjusted. In that it gets reset every shutdown or start up. So, making it adjustable wouldn't change anything as I recall.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Why are you wanting to make it adjustable? It has been a while. But I recall the non adjustable ones don't need to be adjusted. In that it gets reset every shutdown or start up. So, making it adjustable wouldn't change anything as I recall.
You are correct that the 90-91 series will take the reading at startup and consider it to be the minimum position. If I had a stock setup, life is good. No adjustment needed.

HOWEVER, since I have a different cam, heads, displacement, injectors, etc, etc that requires a higher idle, I have a higher commanded idle. AFAIK, if the TPS at startup is within a certain spec, it will accept it as the "rest" or idle position. What I don't know is the spec it is at. IOW, what if, after adjusting it to idle at say 900, the TPS voltage is say 0.8V or 0.3V and that is outside of the spec?
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Originally Posted by aklim
You are correct that the 90-91 series will take the reading at startup and consider it to be the minimum position. If I had a stock setup, life is good. No adjustment needed.

HOWEVER, since I have a different cam, heads, displacement, injectors, etc, etc that requires a higher idle, I have a higher commanded idle. AFAIK, if the TPS at startup is within a certain spec, it will accept it as the "rest" or idle position. What I don't know is the spec it is at. IOW, what if, after adjusting it to idle at say 900, the TPS voltage is say 0.8V or 0.3V and that is outside of the spec?
Sounds like you should find out the spec first if there is one.
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Sounds like you should find out the spec first if there is one.
I would if I could tear apart the code but I can't read assembly code or whatever it is the chip has.
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Originally Posted by aklim
I would if I could tear apart the code but I can't read assembly code or whatever it is the chip has.
Golen Engines website has the procedure and photos on how to convert a NON-ADJUSTABLE TPS into one that can be ADJUSTED. It involves elongating the holes from round to oblong.

I've tried it both ways on my 96 which, from the factory is NON-ADJUSTABLE - and found no difference.

I tried it too on my son's 96 LT1 after his heads, rockers and cam change; same result.

Your mileage may vary.

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Originally Posted by aklim
I would if I could tear apart the code but I can't read assembly code or whatever it is the chip has.
Are you sure there even is a "normal" spec the TPS has to be in during start up for it to go by that as idle?

I believe there are TPS "high" and "low" codes that show up on the check engine light. I'd say drive the car and see if you get a TPS code on the check engine light. If you do, then you could try elongating the holes so you can adjust it somewhat before trying a new sensor.



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Originally Posted by JAKE
Golen Engines website has the procedure and photos on how to convert a NON-ADJUSTABLE TPS into one that can be ADJUSTED. It involves elongating the holes from round to oblong.

I've tried it both ways on my 96 which, from the factory is NON-ADJUSTABLE - and found no difference.

I tried it too on my son's 96 LT1 after his heads, rockers and cam change; same result.

Your mileage may vary.

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Not that I have a 96 but it might be similar. What is the desired idle speed that is written into the chip?
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Originally Posted by joshwilson3
Are you sure there even is a "normal" spec the TPS has to be in during start up for it to go by that as idle?

I believe there are TPS "high" and "low" codes that show up on the check engine light. I'd say drive the car and see if you get a TPS code on the check engine light. If you do, then you could try elongating the holes so you can adjust it somewhat before trying a new sensor.



I have an elongated TPS. Or should I say "Had". Unfortunately, driving over the sensor breaks it. Did you know that? Wife likes to pull up as far as she can. At that time, I was on the "throne" and she pulled up while I was cleaning the TB and rolled over the TPS. Now I have to get a new one.

Before I purchase I would like to see whether it makes a difference or not, hence the question. I know they have 2 codes that MIGHT be in my ECM tables. 21 and 22.

21 tps sensor out of range
22 tps sensor signal voltage low
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