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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 02:35 PM
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HELP!!!! I used a short block from a lt1 with 2 bolt mains. My heads and cam went on and I used corvette timing chane. Everything went together as it should. When I tried to start it sounds out of time. When it dose start it runs rough. My question is, dose the corvette use a differant timing chane? And are the crank shafts the same?
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Old Dec 11, 2010 | 04:06 PM
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All the parts you mentioned are the same. Sounds like you installed the Opti wrong by forcing it into place vs a gentle seating.
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Sounds like you didn't get the timing gears aligned, or the opti is installed/forced in wrong.
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Could a bad battery cause it to run rough?
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The distribitor can only go together one way and I checked it and it was together the right way. I know the battery is shot. Will switch out tomarow. Is it posabile that starting with a 250 amp charger is my prob? The batt. will not hold a charge at all.
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The distribitor can only go together one way and I checked it and it was together the right way. I know the battery is shot. Will switch out tomarow. Is it posabile that starting with a 250 amp charger is my prob? The batt. will not hold a charge at all.
You can easily install the Opti incorrectly, especially the on the '92-94 Vettes but also on the '95-'96. Another possibility is that you installed two of the plug wires on the wrong terminals. In either case it'll run like you've described.

The 250A charger has nothing to do with how it runs nor the inability of the battery to hold a charge. Once running, the car runs off the alternator not the battery. Perhaps the alternator is bad.
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Double check the plug wires.
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I checked the plug wires and they are still in the right order. lol .... Can the opti seat by hand easily if in wrong position? The hole with the mark goes on the cam pin, how can it go on wrong? Will it go all the way into one of the other holes without forcing it?
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I checked the plug wires and they are still in the right order. lol .... Can the opti seat by hand easily if in wrong position? The hole with the mark goes on the cam pin, how can it go on wrong? Will it go all the way into one of the other holes without forcing it?
Yes because what people do (and they don't realize it), is that they slightly tilt the Opti during install. When they do this, the top two mounting points are flush against the timing cover and they think the Opti is installed correctly. They can't see the third mounting point very well and the Opti will feel like it's seated correctly. Then they put in the three bolts and tighten them down.

On all the '95-'96 Opti's I've seen, there is no hole with a mark. The slot that the cam pin goes into is rectangular. The other slots are hour-glass shape. When installed incorrectly, the pin will be to either side of the correct rectangular slot, advancing or retarding the timing (depending on which side of the slot) about 20*....just enough that the car will run but not well. Chevrolet should have just had one slot machined with no other recesses and then there'd never been an issue.

The only other thing I can think of is that you over-tightened the rocker arms.

You have never stated what year car, engine, or PCM you are using. Based on your name I assume it's some sort of '84/'96 hybrid. Providing all the pertinent information usually helps
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I will recheck the rocker arm adjustment That is the only thing I have not checked 5 or 6 times and found to be correct. By the way I am working on a 95 lt1 . The name is for my 84 and my 96. The 95 is my neighbors car.
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On the photo above is the way I have the opti installed.
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Yes because what people do (and they don't realize it), is that they slightly tilt the Opti during install. When they do this, the top two mounting points are flush against the timing cover and they think the Opti is installed correctly. They can't see the third mounting point very well and the Opti will feel like it's seated correctly. Then they put in the three bolts and tighten them down.

On all the '95-'96 Opti's I've seen, there is no hole with a mark. The slot that the cam pin goes into is rectangular. The other slots are hour-glass shape. When installed incorrectly, the pin will be to either side of the correct rectangular slot, advancing or retarding the timing (depending on which side of the slot) about 20*....just enough that the car will run but not well. Chevrolet should have just had one slot machined with no other recesses and then there'd never been an issue.

The only other thing I can think of is that you over-tightened the rocker arms.

You have never stated what year car, engine, or PCM you are using. Based on your name I assume it's some sort of '84/'96 hybrid. Providing all the pertinent information usually helps
My son just call, the rocker arms, was what over-tightened. Thanks for the help.
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My son just call, the rocker arms, was what over-tightened. Thanks for the help.
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96GS#007 Thanks!!!! It would have taken 2 or 3 more days to think of valve lash. lol Thank you.
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