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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 07:50 AM
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Went for a spirited drive around the neighbourhood and ahead was a dip in the road. As I passed through it the car bounced me off the seat and my head hit the roof. Is this normal for an 84? Talk about a wild ride! Seems to be sprung like a jeep!
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 10:05 AM
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are you 6'3? happens all the time to me?
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Does your 84 have the Z51 suspension? Hardest riding Corvette ever. Some cars achieve 1g cornering with bigger swaybars. The 84 Z51 used stiff springs. Changed mine out a couple of years after I bought it.
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I am 6'2" so I guess my head doesn't have too far to go.

Maybe I do have the z51 suspension. I know I have the performance 3.31 rear gears. My 87 rides like a cadillac compared to my 84. Any way of checking for the z51 suspension?
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if its a 84 the base vs z51 is moot in regaurds to springs iirc
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Went for a spirited drive around the neighbourhood and ahead was a dip in the road. As I passed through it the car bounced me off the seat and my head hit the roof. Is this normal for an 84? Talk about a wild ride! Seems to be sprung like a jeep!
Spirited drive, car bounced me off the seat and my head hit the roof. Is this normal for an '84 ?

Hmmmmmm let me think about that one. . . . . . .

Yeah it's normal,

Ab-normal would be to remove the targa top or top entirely and no seat belt.

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Originally Posted by Lemme
I am 6'2" so I guess my head doesn't have too far to go.

Maybe I do have the z51 suspension. I know I have the performance 3.31 rear gears. My 87 rides like a cadillac compared to my 84. Any way of checking for the z51 suspension?
The 84 Z51 has wheels 1" wider in the back vs the front.

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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 06:58 PM
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On the rear storage compartment lid, there should be a White label intact with all the option codes on your 84.

If its Z51 equipped, it will read Z51.

I believe the base suspension is coded FE1 in 1984 and all years up to 1996.

My 87 Vert has the option label on console door underside.

Mine reads Z52 suspension.

Detuned (softer front and rear springs) handling option for 1987 and 1988 coupes and convertibles.

1984 Corvettes are really supposed to Handle the best of all C4's on a smooth road or racetrack I have been told.
But bumpy roads are no fun in them I hear also.

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Yep - You want a mush-ie ride buy a newer vette

There's a Betty Davis quote you should look up
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Can't find any options label in the vehicle unfortunately.

Did a quick measurement on the rims. Look like 9.5 - 10 inch rims all around with 255/50 R16 tyres. They look like truck tyres when compared to my 87s 17x8.5" with low profile 255s.

I noticed the 84 tends to follow the ruts in the road a lot more. Probably the big tyres.

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Originally Posted by RICEKILA
Yep - You want a mush-ie ride buy a newer vette

There's a Betty Davis quote you should look up
Please explain!

The classic 1950 film "All About Eve" contained this famous quote. The film's star was Bette Davis, and there is a cameo appearance by a very young Marilyn Monroe in the movie. The line was spoken by Bette Davis in the film, and the full line is: "fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride".

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Originally Posted by Lemme
"fasten your seatbelts, it's going to be a bumpy ride".
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Originally Posted by Lemme
Can't find any options label in the vehicle unfortunately.

Did a quick measurement on the rims. Look like 9.5 - 10 inch rims all around with 255/50 R16 tyres. They look like truck tyres when compared to my 87s 17x8.5" with low profile 255s.

I noticed the 84 tends to follow the ruts in the road a lot more. Probably the big tyres.

Probably not a whole lot you can do about the rough ride in your 84 Steve unless you change out the front and rear fiberglass springs with softer ride springs from a later Vette.

The 1984 - 1987 Corvette springs interchange.

Are the shocks worn out on your 84?

Leaking oil ?

If worn out, be a good time to replace them.

They changed the Caster settings after the 1984 year. From 4 degrees positive to 7 degrees.

Was changed around 1986 or 1987.

My 87 calls for 7 degrees caster. Helped with straight line tracking and handling I recall reading from old C4 articles in the past.

Don't know if adding more caster to you 84 would help with straight line tracking over irregular road surfaces or not.

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Originally Posted by 87 vette 81 big girl
Probably not a whole lot you can do about the rough ride in your 84 Steve unless you change out the front and rear fiberglass springs with softer ride springs from a later Vette.

The 1984 - 1987 Corvette springs interchange.

Are the shocks worn out on your 84?

Leaking oil ?

If worn out, be a good time to replace them.

They changed the Caster settings after the 1984 year. From 4 degrees positive to 7 degrees.

Was changed around 1986 or 1987.

My 87 calls for 7 degrees caster. Helped with straight line tracking and handling I recall reading from old C4 articles in the past.

Don't know if adding more caster to you 84 would help with straight line tracking over irregular road surfaces or not.

Brian
The 84 is going to become my dragcar / trackcar so the stiff suspension / taller diff gears / big rubber are probably a good thing.

The shocks aren't leaking but do look ancient. Probably worth changing. The rear suspension bushings have allegedly been done by the previous owner. I have just bought all the parts to do all the front ball joints / bushings. Front spring creeks like an old 4 poster on honeymoon night!
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Lol.

Its a Good Move turning your 84 Corvette into race car.

Few appreciate an 84. Make fun of it. Call it obscene things, ect.

But transplant an engine with 600 + horsepower and matching torque numbers.......

Things change for the better. Its suddenly a Vette to beat and
admire again .LOL

Like to have an 84 Vette myself. In Red or Black.

BR
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:21 PM
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Originally Posted by 87 vette 81 big girl
Lol.

Its a Good Move turning your 84 Corvette into race car.

Few appreciate an 84. Make fun of it. Call it obscene things, ect.

But transplant an engine with 600 + horsepower and matching torque numbers.......

Things change for the better. Its suddenly a Vette to beat and
admire again .LOL

Like to have an 84 Vette myself. In Red or Black.

BR
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Old Jan 25, 2011 | 08:40 PM
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Let's hear it for 84 race cars.

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Originally Posted by 383vett
Let's hear it for 84 race cars.

I bet your not running the stock crossfire!
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Originally Posted by mrmmoore
I bet your not running the stock crossfire!
Must have the bigger throttle bodies!
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That would be a 406 with a SuperRam.

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