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Old May 15, 2011 | 04:13 PM
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Clean the end of the crank, take the washer off of the big crank bolt , it should catch enough threads to allow you to use it to push the dampener on a bit, then reinstall the washer and push it the rest of the way on. make sure you get it indexed right on the key, if you dont you'll push the key out and then you'll have to remove it again, hope this helps
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Old May 15, 2011 | 05:51 PM
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I keep an extra long bolt for putting on my dampers.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Any idea what size and thread the bolt is?Also it is the 80001 damper I need then right?
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:15 PM
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If you use the bolt to pull on the dampner on, you could strip out the crank threads. Get an install tool.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 06:25 PM
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Originally Posted by My1st
Well it’s going to have to come off regardless to be replaced with a 6 ¾ it doesn’t sound like spacers is really an option after all it’s not a golf cart.
I’ll post a picture when I get it off. I checked and the local parts stores carries them but I’m sure there going to ask what vehicle it’s for, I hope there descriptions give them sizes.

Is correct to say the L98 is internally balanced then?
L98 has neutral balance harmonic balancer.
The flexplate flywheel is externally balanced with the crankshaft.

How a friend that runs an engine & diesel rebuild machine shop explained it to me in the past.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:04 PM
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Originally Posted by ex-x-fire
If you use the bolt to pull on the dampner on, you could strip out the crank threads. Get an install tool.
You may be able to get away with installing the dampner without the correct tool, but if you pull the threads out of the crankshaft snout by grabbing only a few threads, you and your crank are in deep doo doo.
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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:17 PM
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Thats the idea of the longer bolt.You can thread the bolt in pretty far and not worry about pulling the threads out.The stock bolt is not long enough to use .You cannot get enough threads in and it can strip the threads.As far as the 80001 being the correct damper I looked it up on their site and it seems to be the one I have on my 400.But you need to call their tech line to be absolutely sure.

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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by steven mack
Thats the idea of the longer bolt.You can thread the bolt in pretty far and not worry about pulling the threads out.The stock bolt is not long enough to use .You cannot get enough threads in and it can strip the threads.
MOROSO sells a Harmonic Balancer installer for around $25 to $30 for a SBC & another for a BBC motors.

Purchase from Summit, Jegs, Powerhouse Tools, or your local Speed shop.

You are on the East Coast, there should be plenty of speed shops left.

Like Willie said,...........pull the threads out of your 400sbc crankshaft front snout & you will be very sorry.

If stock crank, it is only cast iron & soft material compared to billet 4340 chrome moly steel used on premium racing cranks like CROWER's.

Autozone, Pep Boys, and others should have the correct balancer tool to rent out also.

I would buy a MOROSO sbc balancer installer, when done it will be a very welcome addition to your home garage toolbox for generations to come.

BR
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Old May 15, 2011 | 08:49 PM
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I agree for someone new to working on cars it's not worth the risk of stripping the threads Get the right tool.I have done it enough times my way that I am comfortable that I wont strip the threads .
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Old May 15, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by My1st
Also it is the 80001 damper I need then right?
Correct...unless you'd rather do the balancer just once.

FYI:
http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...rket-junk.html
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Old May 15, 2011 | 10:05 PM
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Originally Posted by My1st
Well it’s defiantly externally balanced, it looks like the one above.
Guess that's why you heard "Bang, bang, bang!"
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Old May 16, 2011 | 06:54 AM
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My local builder would hone the ID of the balancer out a little bit before i put it on, otherwise, it is a press fit.

Have your builder open up the new balancer ID a fuzz.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by LD85
My local builder would hone the ID of the balancer out a little bit before i put it on, otherwise, it is a press fit.

Have your builder open up the new balancer ID a fuzz.
It should be a press fit.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 06:13 PM
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From what I have seen at the auto stores to rent an installer it will not be an option. I have seen four of them but they are all over 6” long, this won’t work when you only have about 4 ½” to work in. I’ll have to get a grade 8 bolt that is longer and go that route to install.
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Old May 16, 2011 | 09:16 PM
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If you go the longer bolt to install your damper you will need to finish the install with the factory bolt.the longer bolt will only let you press the damper about 3/4 's of the way on.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 07:13 AM
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Balancer went on with no issues. With a 3 ½” & 4” grade 8 bolt some spacers, one custom made out of a small block of aluminum I had lying around she went right on.
Thanks Steven for the tip I don’t think an install tool would have fit into the space I had to work in. All I have left to do is set the timing, idle, & TPS then Drive.
Almost forgot I also have to run a new vacuum line to the HAVC controller. I found when the motor was out the hard line that goes through the firewall was broken and melted shut. No wonder I couldn’t change the air flow from heat to defrost. Thanks to all.
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Old May 18, 2011 | 04:39 PM
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I'm glad everything worked out for you.Enjoy the ride.Steve
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