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Old 08-15-2011, 08:23 AM
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Default Best value LT1 383 stroker kit out there?

Hey Guys!
Just wanted to see if anyone knows of a reasonable cost 383 stroker kit for a good street engine that's available? I have mixed feelings about running Eagle rortating assemblies, as I have heard of people having broken the cranks. I have been told Scat is the way to go, or at least one of many options. This is a project I'm going to do after the new year, so I'm in no hurry, just planning at this stage.
I don't plan to to do any strip runs, or run any power adders/blowers,etc... just want to stand on the go pedal and blast off when I want, so budget comes to mind here. cast crank/forged rods,forged pistons and I stout cam/ported LT1 heads,headers,etc...let me know what you think......and fill me in on any deals you might know of.
Thanks in advance!
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Originally Posted by Snipescastle2
so budget comes to mind here.
And that would be..........?
SCAT cast crank / forged pistons rotating assemblies start at $730
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A lot of people are happy with the offerings from Strokerkits.com. They seem to have about as good of a price as anyone and cheaper than most.

The kits include crank, rods, pistons, bearings and rings for less than 800 bucks for a cast 350/383 stroker with a Scat 9000 series crank.

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I wouldn't be afraid of Eagle. I have eagle rods and a lightweight Eagle crank in my 383 (since 2005). It's a road race motor, spends all day at 6800 RPM and 300* oil temps. Never had an issue.
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I personally like Eagle stuff. They had a bad run several years ago and that gave them a bad rep. They are as good as any of the budget cranks. I've never had clearance problems with them and have never broken one even in 500 HP applications.
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Okay Guys,
I haven't really set a bottom line price for this project, but I agree, perhaps Eagle did get a bad rap, I haven't had any experience with them in the past, so it was just hear-say. what about clearance with regards to Camshafts? do we have to run a small base circle cam with these or? I'm looking at a Lloyd Elliot porting job on my stock heads, and one of the cams he recommends.I'll have to look for the specs he sent me, I don't have them in front of me, sorry. I'd say my budget for this project would be $3500.00 I'll be doing most of the assembly myself. I'm going to use a local machinist here in Kansas City that races dirt track with my uncle, and he's very good at what he does. I'm not saying I want to go cheap with this build up, but I don't want the wife to have a cardiac arrest either......I'm open to any ideas if you all have any.
Thanks again!
Ben

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I'm going to use a local machinist here in Kansas City that races dirt track with my uncle, and he's very good at what he does.
Rich Carl?
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I believe that's the guy. He owns KC engine rebuilders (I think
That's the name of his shop-in claycomo) he's got a mean
Sprint car as well as the modified he runs. I'll get the specifics
From my uncle tomorrow. But I believe that's the guy.
Have a good one!
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tpi421Vette has one for sale thats freshly done was like 1800 I think?

hard to beat that
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Originally Posted by cuisinartvette
tpi421Vette has one for sale thats freshly done was like 1800 I think?

hard to beat that


Hey Ron, it's sold.
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Gregg,
The man doing the machine work I mentioned is Raymond Littrell, of Clay County Engine Rebuilders, he's 70 and still races! pretty cool too.
as I mentioned, I didn't think the guy you mentioned was right. anyway's, Ray is the guy I'm gonna have do my machine work.
Have a good one!
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Originally Posted by Snipescastle2
I'd say my budget for this project would be $3500.00
I'm looking at a Lloyd Elliot porting job on my stock heads, and one of the cams he recommends.
LE1 H/C pkg (400rwhp ) $1200
http://www.camaroz28.com/forums/show...5&postcount=15

$1200 for a all forged rotating assembly
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SCA-1-41705-1/

little different price than hyper piston kit
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SCA-1-41820-1/

or cast/ hyper for $700
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/ESP-13005L030/

leaves 1K for machining and misc
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Sell the car and buy a c6! You get a 6.0L with long life expectancy and wow the whole car gets upgraded at the same time !!
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Originally Posted by 5abivt
Sell the car and buy a c6! You get a 6.0L with long life expectancy and wow the whole car gets upgraded at the same time !!
I'm pretty sure that will be above his $3500 budget... :-) Although I was looking on Craigslist last night for Vette "stuff" and found several C5 Z06s going for $15K. Put mine for sale for $10K and then beg the wife for $5K?!??!?!? LOL - I suppose I can keep dreaming!
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Hello just joined this site. I saw this thread and I love the open minded suggestions here. Officially migrating from ls1tech. I have an f body but still an lt1 :-) about the question at hand and the fact that most of you are not trash talking scat and eagle i've personally done a 383 kit from ebay over 4 years ago and it's still running strong. I went with the scat rotating assembly and I have no complaints. I'm getting ready to do a 396 in my 96 formula lt1 and i'm planning on going ebay again as the kits come with hastings rings and clevitte bearings. I was also gonna go with the lloyd elliot heads and camtoo aand by my figuring I figure I can get by with a 396 long block with some long tube headers and mail order tune for right at 4 grand. So I say if your budget is 3500 and you already have a lot of the supporting mods like the lt4 stuff and headers you should be sitting good for a 383. Everyone at ls1 tech claims you can't build one for less than 10 grand but apparently they seem to think you have to rebuild your trans and a big bad rear end before you can build a motor.
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Originally Posted by Evil_1979
I'm pretty sure that will be above his $3500 budget... :-) Although I was looking on Craigslist last night for Vette "stuff" and found several C5 Z06s going for $15K. Put mine for sale for $10K and then beg the wife for $5K?!??!?!? LOL - I suppose I can keep dreaming!
In my honest opinion if you stretched it to do that you would never look back. The c5 zo6 has so much to offer and is a 385/405 hp stock motor with like new reliability and issues. I debated this when I first built my motor and seriously wish I took a loss and bought the c5z. I didn't because I had so much money tied into the suspension brakes and wheels and interior among other stuff.

Besides that I believe scat had the bad rep early on because they had several crank failures in their cast series and they re designed them into a stronger crank. I'd say eagle are good stuff but I'd probably source a used Callie's crank instead. Experienced nothing but good things about eagle rods though I know a few engines running them.

If you're not planning to spray it I'd go with a hyper piston.
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Here's the shop that did my longblock

http://qmpracing.com/

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Just a street driver maybe what 6000 rpm?

You dont need anything fancy or high$

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