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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 04:38 PM
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I have a 1994 convertible that I have been wanting to convert to a 6 speed.
I just came across a 1994 6 speed coupe for sale. The guy is asking $5400.00. It looks to be clean with 160,000 miles on it.
So I'm thinkin I could buy it for maybe $5000.00, switch transmissions, rear ends and whatever else and then sell the coupe for 4 to 5 thousand.
The question is , would it be worth the work?
Has anyone done this that could give me the heads up on what to expect?
Are there any wiring issues ?
With 160,000 miles on the transmission will it need to be rebuilt soon?
I apreciate any and all help,
Thanks,Rick
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:04 PM
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For a second I thought he wanted 5400 for the trans alone...

5400 isn't bad at all for a clean coupe with 116K. Depends on the details though.

I'm not sure that the transmissions will match up between different motors. Does it have the same engine?

With the cars side by side, it shouldn't be too bad of a job if you have the right equipment You could probably just swap the motor and trans if its the same motor and not even disconnect the trans. Unless you have some money into the motor. That would change things.

Why don't you just drive the coupe?
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:20 PM
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This discussion pops up somewhat often, and people do switch to manual transmission, but with the price of C4s, it would be best to just outright buy a six-speed. 160,000 is a lot of miles and unless the car has been meticulously maintained you could be getting yourself into a lot of work.

Another option would be to post an offer for a swap for an equivalent car with a six speed for your automatic. Same result that will save you time (and make for more time behind the wheel of your car) and possibly money.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by navy_vette
For a second I thought he wanted 5400 for the trans alone...

5400 isn't bad at all for a clean coupe with 116K. Depends on the details though.

I'm not sure that the transmissions will match up between different motors. Does it have the same engine?

With the cars side by side, it shouldn't be too bad of a job if you have the right equipment You could probably just swap the motor and trans if its the same motor and not even disconnect the trans. Unless you have some money into the motor. That would change things.

Why don't you just drive the coupe?
I'm a rag top man, and mostly a no top guy!!!
I also have put ground effects and a rear spoiler that I made myself that sorta looks like a 70's style camaro(lots of hours !!) and I'm liking the look of it mostly. Thats mostly why I want to keep this car and not sell it to get a 6 speed car.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 05:57 PM
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Here's someone who has swapped a 700R4 for a ZF6.

http://members.cisdi.com/~anesthes/

Also, I know that the other forum members speak highly of the ZF6 Doc for his knowledge on all things ZF6:

http://www.zfdoc.com/index.htm

I know there are more threads on it though where people detail how they converted it but I don't have them off-hand. I hope this helps get you started.
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Old Oct 10, 2011 | 06:49 PM
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Thanks for the input!!
I don't seem to know how to search this forum!!!
I tryed 6 speed conversion,transmission,6 speed and I come up with nothing even though people say it's a common tread.
I would really like to know how to find things here!!!
Thanks again,
Rick




Originally Posted by miscstudent
Here's someone who has swapped a 700R4 for a ZF6.

http://members.cisdi.com/~anesthes/

Also, I know that the other forum members speak highly of the ZF6 Doc for his knowledge on all things ZF6:

http://www.zfdoc.com/index.htm

I know there are more threads on it though where people detail how they converted it but I don't have them off-hand. I hope this helps get you started.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by navy_vette
I'm not sure that the transmissions will match up between different motors.
A ZF6 is a bolt in swap ( with all the right OE parts ) into any C4.
Hardest part is reworking the tunnel for the shifter; made easier if you have a donor car along side.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 06:06 AM
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Just did the swap few weeks ago , I like it.

I just have one problem that speedometer is not working , just came back home and I'll work it out.

you will need those , I dont know if i forgot something

D44,manual pedals , master and slave cylinder (better to get new), new clutch and flywheel, bellhousing ,shifter


good luck
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Originally Posted by Mohammed_z
I just have one problem that speedometer is not working , just came back home and I'll work it out.
Which VSS did you use?
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 03:00 PM
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I bought a used T-56 I paid 1100.00 for it. It did not come with a LT-1 bellhousing. That was 175.00 I had the trans inspected "it was sold as ready to go" Yeah right i spent 1500.00 on the race rebuild. Now I have a sold trans. But for a little more I could have a brand new one from Tremec. If I had to do it over I would have bought a new Richmond. They bolt in place of the 4+3 and it is the only nonstock part to the build. At 3200.00 pull one out and put the other in. And Done! That is not to say I'm not happy it is just the long way around the mountain. Also the ZF is a very expensive trans to get rebuilt so I have been told.

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Originally Posted by rodj
Which VSS did you use?

the one that came with the zf6 , I'm planning to replace it with a new one although the trans is new but I need to restrict the causes of the speedometer fail.
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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 03:14 PM
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No worries- I did a quick search for you. What I searched for was
transmission swap
You search this under the Advanced Search and limit the searched forums to C4 Tech/Performance.

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...-finished.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...-zf6-swap.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...n-an-87-a.html

http://forums.corvetteforum.com/c4-t...rsion-l98.html

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Old Oct 11, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by miscstudent
You search this under the Advanced Search and limit the searched forums to C4 Tech/Performance.
Here in lies the key as well as choosing the right search words.
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 09:07 AM
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I know someone with about 230,000 miles on his ZR-1. As far as I know the Trans has been untouched

I do know that he also took the car on One Lap a few times through out its life
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Old Oct 12, 2011 | 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by rodj
A ZF6 is a bolt in swap ( with all the right OE parts ) into any C4.
Hardest part is reworking the tunnel for the shifter; made easier if you have a donor car along side.
This is a misconception, I don't know about the swap from an A4 to a zf6 in an LT1 equipped vette but there is cutting and patching involved on the tunnel on the swap on an l98 equipped vette, it is not a bolt in swap.
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Originally Posted by dclafleur
This is a misconception, I don't know about the swap from an A4 to a zf6 in an LT1 equipped vette but there is cutting and patching involved on the tunnel on the swap on an l98 equipped vette, it is not a bolt in swap.
You cut a rectangle in the floor, you are done. Buy a $13 shift boot and screw it to the tunnel.

I did this years ago on my C4 before I sold it. The ZF6 swap was easy. Car was an '87 L98/A4

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I didn't say it was hard but the moment you break out the saw it stops being a bolt on swap.
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