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Old Nov 12, 2011 | 11:01 PM
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Im definitely stumped by this. My 94 has been having trans issues recently. First and second seem to be slipping horribly (i floor it and the engine shoots right to the redline with very little forward movement). third and OD seem to be OK (when going over 70 the car performs like it should when floored). I just drained and replaced the fluid and filter and added TransX (anti slip fluid) to no avail. When holding the brakes at a standstill, OD and 3rd definitely produce more torque than 2nd and first. thats about all i have at this time. Any ideas?
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 11:00 AM
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Sounds like a straight forward problem,your transmission clutches are worn out.Time for a new trans,rebuild,or used trans.On a 700r4,I would say to check your mechanical governor.But your trans appears to be bad.How many miles on yours trans?Have you beat on your car often?When replacing trans,be sure to get a performance torque converter since you like to drive fast (thats you getting pulled over for driving fast & givin a ticket)

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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 04:30 PM
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Try to give Mad Dog Transmissions a call out of Atlanta, GA. I bought a 4L60E from him and it is great. He builds them to handle up to 700hp or so. He has a video you might want to look at on his web site.
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Old Nov 13, 2011 | 06:32 PM
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Originally Posted by 94vettelover2
Sounds like a straight forward problem,your transmission clutches are worn out.Time for a new trans,rebuild,or used trans.On a 700r4,I would say to check your mechanical governor.But your trans appears to be bad.How many miles on yours trans?Have you beat on your car often?When replacing trans,be sure to get a performance torque converter since you like to drive fast (thats you getting pulled over for driving fast & givin a ticket)
It has about 130k plus miles on it, would a 700r4 bolt up and does it have to be corvette specific? Because i got a 92 trans am that i wrecked recently sitting in my front yard with a fresh 355 and a rebuilt 700r4 just sitting there. And as for my fast driving Ill quote one of my great mentors Col. Wayne Morris USMC Ret., "Drive it like you stole it or buy a Yugo!"
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 11:50 AM
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Gonna bump this since no ones reposted
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Old Nov 16, 2011 | 12:00 PM
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It has about 130k plus miles on it, would a 700r4 bolt up and does it have to be corvette specific? Because i got a 92 trans am that i wrecked recently sitting in my front yard with a fresh 355 and a rebuilt 700r4 just sitting there. And as for my fast driving Ill quote one of my great mentors Col. Wayne Morris USMC Ret., "Drive it like you stole it or buy a Yugo!"
This would not be a quick bolt in swap... More trouble then it's worth, cost or time wise.. I would look for a rebuilder or do it yourself.. I've built my 4L60e a few times as I drive the car aggressively and track it from time to time.. and I would get a corvette trans if you are looking at used ones.. as there are some differences inside, but most importantly is the tail housing, the C-Beam bolts to and supports the rear of the trans on corvette, on others there is a trans mount before the tail housing so the tail housing is specific to corvette..

I agree the clutches are probably shot, and there could be something else that caused them to go, but with 130K probably just normal wear and tear..

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I went from a 4+3 to a 700r4 to a 4L60e. It won't be difficult at all to change from a 4l60e to a 700r4. You'll have to wack 5/8" off the output shaft (a cutoff wheel works). Use the tailshaft off your 4l60e with the pulsewith generator thingy and swap gears on the tailshaft using the forward positioning hole. You'll have to get an earlier c4 tv/throttle cable bracket and you should be good to go. On my 700r4 I had a switch on the console (I used the overdrive switch for the 4+3) to ground the tcc cable to manually lock and unlock the converter. I used it as a 5th gear when cruising on the freeway. I actually still use the switch to lock up the converter after the 1-2 shift at the strip. It's worth .15 on the quarter on my car. Your old converter will work. I'm not sure if you'll get a check engine light because the ecm won't be receiving a tranny signal but that can be tuned out. Willie
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Gotcha, how difficult would it be to swap in a manual? I know I'd need to put in a clutch pedal, along with slave cyl. and probably alter alot of other things. Would it be better to just keep it auto or upgrade to something where I could row my own gears?
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 08:34 PM
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Why not just repair the broken forward apply piston?
Why reinvent the wheel, when you could just fix it?
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 09:21 PM
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YOU'LL BE TIME AND MONEY AHEAD,AND WAY LESS HEADACHES TO JUST REBUILD OR REPLACE YOU ORIGINAL TRANNY IF YOU HAVE IT REBUILT ASK ABOUT A SHIFT KIT,AND A HIGHER STALL CONVERTER. I THINK YOU'LL BE WAY HAPPIER AND LESS PROBLEMS
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Old Nov 18, 2011 | 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Pete K
Why not just repair the broken forward apply piston?
Why reinvent the wheel, when you could just fix it?
???
Easy fix?
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Originally Posted by VetteManHand
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Easy fix?
Once the transmission is out of the car, and on the bench, yes.
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Pete can fix anything, so yes, it will be an easy fix.
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lots of goodies to put into a 4l60e ,this unit can handle 700+ hp when upgraded to state of the art aftermarket parts.Sonnax has tons of items in his catalogue,some parts requiring drilling or machining,but definatly you have a brand new stronger ,firmer ,agressive transmission,rebuild it with new stronger parts

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with most of the others, fix what you got. Even if you went to a manual, you will need/want to change your rear gear ratio's then.
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94 is a 4l60e 93 back was a 700r4 corvettes have a shorter tailshaft than other rwd 700
u defenally have a internal issuse if a 4l60s built correctlly there a great unit and
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