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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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So don't know if it was coincidence or not but I took my dash out to get refurbished and the next morning after car was warmed up the rpms dropped fast inbetween shifts and then after closed loop started it stalled if I didnt keep gasing when popping it to nuetral to slow down.

I briefly checked my vaccume lines (I don't have egr or many of them to check) the car does pop a 24 code if it almost stalls, but that is speed sensor if im not mistaken.

Could I have pulled a wire or something while removing the dash? Is the code 24 from the dash missing? If so, why does it pop when the car almost stalls and not when I start moving.

How would I check for an intake leak or runner leak (I have high flow I put on a few months back and its been fine till just now.
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Oh and it is an 1989 6 speed
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 10:47 AM
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The VSS code... has very bad characteristics... Controls fuel and timing
To check for a leak take a propane cylinder open slightly around the intake
If there is a leak your idle will increase
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Is the dash still out?

You are correct that code 24 is speed sensor. On the bottom end, that's plugged into the ZF6. On the top, I've yet to discover it's location. Probably goes to the ECM???? Or, maybe to the Atari first?

Seems like the SS would be used to monitor and determine IAC position. And, if absent, would prohibit operation of that circuit -- leading to stalling.
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Old Jan 27, 2012 | 01:20 PM
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Make sure you don't have a problem with the Temperature Sensor on the water pump. I had the plastic come loose from the brass base and it would make contact and drop contact. If this is failing, you should see the electronic temp on dash drop to 148 and in my case the car wold drop out of closed loop and stumble. If idling, it stalls. Good luck.
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Yea dash is still out of the car, I sent it to be rebuilt. It is baffling that a speed sensor would take info from other systems other than how fast is the whheel turning. Much less have power to mess with them. Why does the engine need to know the speed of the wheels? It just needs to either get louder or stop depending how hard I press the go shoe...
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Indeed VSS comes to the ECM from the display module. I believe that the ECM increases idle speed when the vehicle is in motion; if no motion is sensed it would set the IAC to minimum position. This could account for the rapid RPM drop during a slow shift.
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VSS input to the ECM is used to adjust the IAC on deceleration much like the dashpot on carburated vehicles to prevent stalling such as you are experiencing.
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So in short, my problem is most likely my missing dash?
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