C4 Tech/Performance L98 Corvette and LT1 Corvette Technical Info, Internal Engine, External Engine

Is it the clutch?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 3, 2012 | 06:06 PM
  #1  
YellowStreak's Avatar
YellowStreak
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default Is it the clutch?

I have a 1989 vette that the only time I have a problem with it is when I back up a grade in reverse. The car chatters and almost jumps. The first thing that I thought of is that it must need a clutch, but in forward gears it's fine and has prenty of power to the wheels and excelerates smoothly. When I rev up the engine, it seems secure. I think the engine mounts are tight. Could my problem be something other that the clutch? Help!!
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:20 PM
  #2  
856SPEED's Avatar
856SPEED
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,616
Likes: 111
Default

Is it an aftermarket clutch/fw? That is clutch chatter; I had the same problem with a puck style agressive clutch disk; changed to a different set up (Spec Stage 2 disc) and still does it somewhat but not nearly as bad......
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:43 PM
  #3  
Black89Z51's Avatar
Black89Z51
Suckin' gas, haulin' ass.
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 8
From: Newport News Virginia
Default

Could be the DMF dying. Do you hear any clicking or unusual noises when it does that?
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2012 | 09:53 PM
  #4  
dizwiz24's Avatar
dizwiz24
Race Director
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
 
Joined: Sep 2001
Posts: 14,674
Likes: 751
From: NEwhere Ohio
Default

This is how you know its the clutch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3So...has_verified=1
Reply
Old Feb 3, 2012 | 10:13 PM
  #5  
racebum's Avatar
racebum
Race Director
15 Year Member
Conversation Starter
All Eyes On Me
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 16,028
Likes: 170
From: oregon
Default

Originally Posted by dizwiz24
This is how you know its the clutch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bM3So...has_verified=1
video makes me cringe everytime i see it. would have loved to see the disc and flywheel when pulled

as for the OP

some aggressive clutches clunk, chatter and do just what you described. would be strange if you had an organic but you have a "it could be many things" question. i've seen clutches do it. i've seen bad bushings do it. i've seen balljoints do it in fwd cars. i've even heard one perfectly functional clutch do it and wound up just guessing it was the springs i was hearing.

Last edited by racebum; Feb 3, 2012 at 10:16 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2012 | 11:22 AM
  #6  
YellowStreak's Avatar
YellowStreak
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by 856SPEED
Is it an aftermarket clutch/fw? That is clutch chatter; I had the same problem with a puck style agressive clutch disk; changed to a different set up (Spec Stage 2 disc) and still does it somewhat but not nearly as bad......
I bought this vette this past fall and I don't know it's history, but it has over 100k on it. The clutch may have been changed, but I don't think so. The pedal is at the top of its travel. I'm thinking that it is probably the clutch and that the flywheel needs to be resurfaced. Does this vette have a DMF and can that be bad? What is the difference between stage 1 and stage 2 and 3?

Last edited by YellowStreak; Feb 4, 2012 at 11:29 AM.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2012 | 11:49 AM
  #7  
YellowStreak's Avatar
YellowStreak
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Black89Z51
Could be the DMF dying. Do you hear any clicking or unusual noises when it does that?
I've tried looking for a DMF (dual mass flywheel) as a replacement part for my vette and nothing came up. I may be wrong, but does it have one?
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2012 | 11:56 AM
  #8  
Black89Z51's Avatar
Black89Z51
Suckin' gas, haulin' ass.
Supporting Lifetime
 
Joined: Apr 2010
Posts: 1,100
Likes: 8
From: Newport News Virginia
Default

They came factory with DMFs. Whether it has one or not, you have to pull apart and see. Stage 1, 2, 3, etc are the "steps" on clutch aggression and clamping force. The higher the stage, the higher the aggression and clamping force it has. If you're going to just daily drive it and not mod the crap out of it, stick with a stage 1 or 2 for stockish feel, with a slightly stiffer pedal.
Reply
Corvette Stories

The Best of Corvette for Corvette Enthusiasts

story-0

8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-1

10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

 Joe Kucinski
story-2

How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

 Joe Kucinski
story-3

Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

 Michael S. Palmer
story-4

Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

 Joe Kucinski
story-5

150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

 Joe Kucinski
story-6

8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

 Joe Kucinski
story-8

Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

 Verdad Gallardo
story-9

Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

 Brett Foote
Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:27 PM
  #9  
YellowStreak's Avatar
YellowStreak
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Black89Z51
They came factory with DMFs. Whether it has one or not, you have to pull apart and see. Stage 1, 2, 3, etc are the "steps" on clutch aggression and clamping force. The higher the stage, the higher the aggression and clamping force it has. If you're going to just daily drive it and not mod the crap out of it, stick with a stage 1 or 2 for stockish feel, with a slightly stiffer pedal.
Thanks for your help. I'll wait for a little warmer weather before I take it apart. Still to cold in Wisconsin to work in the garage.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:36 PM
  #10  
856SPEED's Avatar
856SPEED
Melting Slicks
10 Year Member
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 2,616
Likes: 111
Default

I would assume the clutch has been changed and you have a single mass FW with a more aggressive clutch set up that grips a little better than stock; this will cause clutch chatter; reverse gear is always worse due to the different ratio than forward gear 1st gear; however it could be the orginial clutch like mentioned above with other issues. Like you said, you'll have to take it apart. However, a high travel before it releases it not necessarily a bad thing on these cars. It's when the clutch engages right when you lift up on the clutch pedal is when things are going bad; hydraulic leak........
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:48 PM
  #11  
YellowStreak's Avatar
YellowStreak
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by Black89Z51
They came factory with DMFs. Whether it has one or not, you have to pull apart and see. Stage 1, 2, 3, etc are the "steps" on clutch aggression and clamping force. The higher the stage, the higher the aggression and clamping force it has. If you're going to just daily drive it and not mod the crap out of it, stick with a stage 1 or 2 for stockish feel, with a slightly stiffer pedal.
Thank you for your help. My plan is to take it apart before I order parts so I can see what it needs.
Reply
Old Feb 4, 2012 | 12:50 PM
  #12  
YellowStreak's Avatar
YellowStreak
Thread Starter
Intermediate
 
Joined: Oct 2011
Posts: 27
Likes: 0
Default

Originally Posted by 856SPEED
I would assume the clutch has been changed and you have a single mass FW with a more aggressive clutch set up that grips a little better than stock; this will cause clutch chatter; reverse gear is always worse due to the different ratio than forward gear 1st gear; however it could be the orginial clutch like mentioned above with other issues. Like you said, you'll have to take it apart. However, a high travel before it releases it not necessarily a bad thing on these cars. It's when the clutch engages right when you lift up on the clutch pedal is when things are going bad; hydraulic leak........
Thanks, I will be taking it apart when the weather warms up a bit.
Reply

Get notified of new replies

To Is it the clutch?





All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:14 PM.

story-0
8 Most "Only Corvette Owners Understand" Quirks and Problems

Slideshow: These are the quirks, annoyances, and oddly lovable problems that every Corvette owner eventually learns to live with.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-28 09:31:39


VIEW MORE
story-1
10 Reasons the C6 Z06 is Still A Performance Benchmark After 20 Years

Slideshow: 10 reasons why the C6 Z06 is still a performance benchmark after 20 years.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 17:20:09


VIEW MORE
story-2
How Much Horsepower Every Corvette Engine "LOST" in 1972

Slideshow: How much horsepower every Corvette engine lost in 1972.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-27 16:54:53


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 DOs and DON'Ts for Protecting Your Convertible Top!

Slideshow: How to Protect A Convertible Top: 10 DOs & DON'Ts

By Michael S. Palmer | 2026-04-03 00:00:00


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Explosive Corvettes Ever Made: Power-to-Weight Ratio Ranked!

Slideshow: The 10 most explosive Corvettes ever built based on power-to-weight ratio.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-20 07:23:03


VIEW MORE
story-5
150 hp to 1,250 hp: Every Corvette Generation Compared by the Specs That Matter

Slideshow: From C1 to C8 we compare every Corvette generation by the numbers.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-12 16:54:12


VIEW MORE
story-6
8 Coolest Corvette Pace Cars (and Replicas) of All Time

Slideshow: Some Corvette pace cars became collectible legends, while others perfectly captured the look and attitude of their era.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-11 09:50:51


VIEW MORE
story-7
Top 10 Corvette Engines RANKED by Peak Torque (70+ Years of Muscle!)

Slideshow: Ranking the top 10 Corvette engines by torque output.

By Joe Kucinski | 2026-05-05 11:58:09


VIEW MORE
story-8
Corvette ZR1X Will Be Pacing the Indy 500, And Could Probably Race, Too!

Slideshow: A Corvette pace car nearly matching IndyCar speeds sounds exaggerated, until you look at the numbers.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-04 20:03:36


VIEW MORE
story-9
Top 10 Corvettes Coming to Mecum Indy 2026!

Among a rather large group of them.

By Brett Foote | 2026-05-04 13:56:44


VIEW MORE